Lara/Ambrose vs Ponting/McGrath

[govinda indian fan]

Corrections success in India.

But Ambrose never played in india. Who knows might have averaged below 20

 

[Sliferxxxx]

But Ambrose never played in india. Who knows might have averaged below 20

Who knows indeed but odds favor him averaging around 30, if I can be completely honest. At full fitness, maybe a few runs under 30.

 

[Johan]

Indian Batsmen of the 90s were kind of hopeless against pace outside Tendulkar, almost like 90s english and kiwi batters against spin, Ambrose wouldn't struggle.

 

[Bolo.]

His potential average there is pretty much pure speculation. Him averaging 15 or 35 both sound plausible to me.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Indian Batsmen of the 90s were kind of hopeless against pace outside Tendulkar, almost like 90s english and kiwi batters against spin, Ambrose wouldn't struggle.

With the caveat that he's close to full fitness. Truth be told, his surgery did greatly diminish him.

 

[The Sean]

With the caveat that he's close to full fitness. Truth be told, his surgery did greatly diminish him.

It's a testament to how well he adapted his bowling I suppose, because while I believe you in terms of being diminished after surgery (hard to tell for me as an Aussie because he always seemed great against us), it isn't really borne out significantly in the pre- and post-surgery numbers. A slight reduction in workload and penetration, a slight improvement in average, but overall not a big step in either direction.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

It's a testament to how well he adapted his bowling I suppose, because while I believe you in terms of being diminished after surgery (hard to tell for me as an Aussie because he always seemed great against us), it isn't really borne out significantly in the pre- and post-surgery numbers. A slight reduction in workload and penetration, a slight improvement in average, but overall not a big step in either direction.

Fair assessment.

 

[kyear2]

It's a testament to how well he adapted his bowling I suppose, because while I believe you in terms of being diminished after surgery (hard to tell for me as an Aussie because he always seemed great against us), it isn't really borne out significantly in the pre- and post-surgery numbers. A slight reduction in workload and penetration, a slight improvement in average, but overall not a big step in either direction.

Yeah, it's a testament to his ability that he was able to maintain his numbers and value to the team. He never hurt them.

 

[subshakerz]

I'm so tired of this penetrative argument as if it was just him.

Ambrose in

Pak. - 60
S.A. - 57
Eng. - 55
Aus - 48

Imran Khan in (preferred period in brackets)

Aus. - 67 (63)
Eng. - 62 (59)
Ind. - 61 (61)
N.Z. - 75 (66)

McGrath in

Eng. - 40
Ind. - 57
Pak. - 63
S.A. - 63

Who out of the 3 was the least penetrative?

The even worse in SA was better than Imran managed in any of the countries referenced there.

Don't want to bother to debate this but you are unnecessarily bringing in Imran in a Ambrose vs McGrath chat.