Katich call up

[Gaijin-san]

He hasn't been batting any worse than Bevan, yet no-one is calling for Bevan's head.

Agreed. Perhaps Bevan's finishing days are finished. He's been on a slight downward slide for a little while now.

 

[age_master]

Agreed. Perhaps Bevan's finishing days are finished. He's been on a slight downward slide for a little while now.

he has hardly had the chance to bat thus far, a promotion to number 4 for the Zimbabwe game maybe?

 

[age_master]

Harvey's rating as such a good death-bowler is shockingly wrong.

have you seen him bowl much? obviously not by that statement

 

[Mister Wright]

have you seen him bowl much? obviously not by that statement

Have you?

 

[Tom Halsey]

He is one of the best death bowlers in the world, and therefore is a very handy OD player. But forget Tests, I don't rate him as a bowler in normal conditions.

 

[Gaijin-san]

Get real! He went for 22 runs off his last over!

 

[Rik]

Get real! He went for 22 runs off his last over!

And you never make sense...

See the similarity?

 

[iamdavid]

I dont think you can read to much into Martyn's duck , he didnt really do anything wrong , got a good ball , had to play at it , it jagged away & he got a touch on it.
Just hoping he isnt dropped as a result of that as I dont actually think his form is that bad ATM.
Luck just not going his way.

But I must admit Bevan does look woefully out of touch , Ganguly & Kartik made him look a fool yesterday & he hasnt been a whole lot better all series , despite 2 situations which were made for him , yesterday & at Brisbane.
He's bailed us out so many times before so he wont be discarded at the drop of a hat.
In his defence he hasnt really had the chance to build an innings so far this series , 7 is to low for a player of his proven ability.

As for Harvey I hope they get rid of him now , if they are playing him as an allrounder at number 7 then thats all well & good.
But number 8 is a bowlers spot , Harvey is almost ideal for the 5th bowler role , but he aint good enough to be the 4th trundler , having him roll his arm over while one of Lee , Bichel , Bracken watch from the sheds is useless.
His batting isnt being utilised at 8 , & Bichel actually has a way better ODI batting record that him anyway.
Get a specialist bowler in there or move him to 7 , hopefully the former.

I hope they give Marto a shot at opening with Hayden in the next two games , with Haddin at 7.
That then creates room for Bevo at 5 or possibly even 4 , to give him a chance to play himself back into some form.

Lee's control was much better yesterday , he still isnt swinging the ball like he does at his best but generally he bowled with pretty exceptional control.

1.M.L.Hayden
2.D.R.Martyn
3.R.T.Ponting*
4.M.G.Bevan
5.A.Symonds
6.M.J.Clarke
7.B.J.Haddin+
8.A.J.Bichel
9.B.Lee
10.J.N.Gillespie
11.B.A.Williams/N.W.Bracken

 

[PY]

I hope they give Marto a shot at opening with Hayden in the next two games , with Haddin at 7.
That then creates room for Bevo at 5 or possibly even 4 , to give him a chance to play himself back into some form.

Is the reason for moving Martyn up to regain some form?

Because if it isn't then there isn't much point because he is just going to get ousted by Gilchrist when he returns, and if Bevan performs at 4/5 then Martyn might be out on his todd.

 

[Gaijin-san]

And you never make sense...

See the similarity?

Rik, all you've ever done to me on this forum is to make your big man comments like this, trying to belittle my opinion. That leaves me with two options: To bitch and be bitter about it, or to keep talking about the cricket. I take the second. You should too. Comments like that are just garbage.

I agree that Marto should be given the chance to open next match. I've never liked Katich and after last night's nothing shot, well, I like him even less. Haddin down the order sounds like a plan, too. All the other players have some experience this series and throwing Haddin in at the deep end sounds like a recipe for disaster.

What's Haddin doing there in the first place? For a 2 match replacement it should have been Seccombe.

 

[iamdavid]

Is the reason for moving Martyn up to regain some form?

Because if it isn't then there isn't much point because he is just going to get ousted by Gilchrist when he returns, and if Bevan performs at 4/5 then Martyn might be out on his todd.

MArtyn's record opening is superb , I reckon it gives him the best possible chance of returning to something near his best.
He's got nothing to loose as he's really a match or two away from being outsourced anyway.

 

[Linda]

MArtyn's record opening is superb , I reckon it gives him the best possible chance of returning to something near his best.

Ooh ooh, can I? I will anyway, as I have been telling everyone I can about it...

5 Innings: 2 centuries, 3 not outs. Scores of 16, 116*, 69*, 144* and 19.

I reckon it'd do him the world of good. It would give him a bit of time to work into it, and if it succeeds his confidence would rocket.

 

[marc71178]

Get real! He went for 22 runs off his last over!

Lee has one of the better Eco rates around, but went for over 80 in a game!

One-offs do happen!

 

[Richard]

Um I was trying to say the NZ 'A' tour to Pakistan two months ago when we sent an 'A' team. Obviously your reluctance to not take notice of NZ Cricket but still comment is ridiculous.

ANd by the way, domestic season figures don't count either.

If you're referring to the senior tour where they sent a second-string side I mentioned that anyway.:rolleyes:
I'm perfectly aware domestic figures don't count. I was simply mentioning it as an aside.

 

[Neil Pickup]

I reckon it'd do him the world of good. It would give him a bit of time to work into it, and if it succeeds his confidence would rocket.

Or, more likely, result in Australia 0/1

 

[Richard]

Lee has one of the better Eco rates around, but went for over 80 in a game!

One-offs do happen!

Lee does not have one of the better economy-rates around.
One of the best averages, yes, but he is certainly not economical.
Lee has gone for 70 off 8 against Zimbabwe twice (and 63 off 10) and 80 off 10 twice (Pakistan and India)
One-offs happen but Harvey being smashed all over the park is certainly not one of them.
Look at his career record. Then get rid of Bangladesh games and look at it again.

 

[Richard]

Or, more likely, result in Australia 0/1

Nah - he'd never face first.
Can you see a 1st-over maiden to Gilchrist or Hayden?

 

[Richard]

Ooh ooh, can I? I will anyway, as I have been telling everyone I can about it...

5 Innings: 2 centuries, 3 not outs. Scores of 16, 116*, 69*, 144* and 19.

I reckon it'd do him the world of good. It would give him a bit of time to work into it, and if it succeeds his confidence would rocket.

I really hope he does open (disappointed Katich was for some bizarre reason preferred). That average needs to come down!

 

[Neil Pickup]

Nah - he'd never face first.
Can you see a 1st-over maiden to Gilchrist or Hayden?

No, I thought of that, but I couldn't be bothered to write the length of sentence required to explain why it was 1/1 :P

 

[Richard]

have you seen him bowl much? obviously not by that statement

I've seen some straw-clutchers who make big comments in hope in my time, but this a_m really takes the biscuit...
I've seen Harvey bowl more times than any Australian professional, that do you? His slower-back-handers and low Full-Tosses might cut the mustard brilliantly at domestic level but that doesn't make him international class.