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Jasprit Bumrah

Swamp Witch Hattie

School Boy/Girl Captain
Both are examples of lack of support, or at least the gulf in quality. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
A comparison was made in another thread between Bumrah's situation and Hadlee's. The difference between their support levels overall throughout their Test careers is like night and day, and even in the current series when Bumrah has had less support than usual, he still has had a lot more support than Hadlee.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
The stats for Bumrah are correct (except his BBI is 6/76) but unless I'm doing my sums wrong, some of the stats for the other bowlers are incorrect and exaggerate how badly they have done and how little support they have given Bumrah:

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I'm getting for the other bowlers:

36 wickets, 41.22 average, 3.71 economy, 66.67 strike rate (the BBI and fifers are correct)
Cbf to work it out but are the non-Bumrah figures the totals and averages of all runs not off him? Thus counting byes and leg byes towards the averages and economy
 

Swamp Witch Hattie

School Boy/Girl Captain
Cbf to work it out but are the non-Bumrah figures the totals and averages of all runs not off him? Thus counting byes and leg byes towards the averages and economy
I was wondering about that myself. I'll look into it (I cbf (c = can, this time) to work it out!!!). I think I've done it the right way though because I've focussed on the other bowlers' performances.
 

Sliferxxxx

School Boy/Girl Captain
What's all this talk of Bumrah not having support? The support might not be so great now, but he had Shami, the good version of Ishant and 2 spin greats.
Bumrah has had more than enough support. I think people on here just have short memories as usual. This series notwithstanding, it wasn't too long that indians on here and their media were boasting about Indias pace attacks and especially there bench strength with guys like Shami, Yadav, Siraj, etc. And thats not mention the spinners, who are especially a handful at home. Bumrah is no lone wolf like Hadlee, he's played with quality attacks for most of his career.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I think people were largely referring to bumrah's performance this series compared to Mitchell Johnson in 2013 when talking about the lack of support. Siraj has been good support even though the stats don't show it imo.
Yeah that's exactly what I was talking about. Siddle and Harris were superb that series as well.
 

Coronis

International Coach
I think people were largely referring to bumrah's performance this series compared to Mitchell Johnson in 2013 when talking about the lack of support. Siraj has been good support even though the stats don't show it imo.
Its obviously true for this series. But at least one poster has already tried to claim Bumrah > McGrath because McGrath played in a great attack. Complete revisionist history.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Now that Bumrah's calender year is done, lowest bowling average among all bowlers in test history (both spinners and pacers) in a calendar year with at least 50 wickets:

Imran Khan ‘82 - 62 wickets @ 13.29, 38 SR
Sydney Barnes ‘12 - 61 wickets @ 14.14, 36 SR
Jasprit Bumrah ‘24 - 71 wickets @ 14.92, 30.1 SR
Waqar Younis ‘93 - 56 wickets @ 15.15, 29.5 SR


Just one of the most impressive individual years of all time and the best of the century for a pacer by a margin.
 
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ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The stats for Bumrah are correct (except his BBI is 6/76) but unless I'm doing my sums wrong, some of the stats for the other bowlers are incorrect and exaggerate how badly they have done and how little support they have given Bumrah:

From

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I'm getting for the other bowlers:

36 wickets, 41.22 average, 3.71 economy, 66.67 strike rate (the BBI and fifers are correct)
Rest of the bowlers face averaged 42.xx
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Bumrah at 62 wickets in Australia currently is 17 wickets away from overtaking Curtly Ambrose (78) for most wickets in Australia. I'd imagine he'd probably get half way there in the next test at the rate he's going. Either way, whether he plays another series and consequently takes the record (handily) or not, he has the lowest average of any bowler in Australia with more than 50 wickets. The next 2 names and also the only other bowlers with a sub-20 bowling average are Hadlee and Ambrose.

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Arachnödouche2.0

U19 Debutant
Wonder how Bumrah the medium-pacer will go 3-4 years from now. He's obviously a clever bowler and not overly dependent on speed alone. Be fun to see him adapt as his pace goes down.
 

reyrey

U19 Captain
Bumrah has had more than enough support. I think people on here just have short memories as usual. This series notwithstanding, it wasn't too long that indians on here and their media were boasting about Indias pace attacks and especially there bench strength with guys like Shami, Yadav, Siraj, etc. And thats not mention the spinners, who are especially a handful at home. Bumrah is no lone wolf like Hadlee, he's played with quality attacks for most of his career.
I just checked and for the period since Bumrah made his debut, 8 other Indian bowlers have averaged under 26 for that period and taken a minimum 25 wickets .
 

OverratedSanity

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Bumrah has had more than enough support. I think people on here just have short memories as usual. This series notwithstanding, it wasn't too long that indians on here and their media were boasting about Indias pace attacks and especially there bench strength with guys like Shami, Yadav, Siraj, etc. And thats not mention the spinners, who are especially a handful at home. Bumrah is no lone wolf like Hadlee, he's played with quality attacks for most of his career.
It's about this series. The rest have really not been great. Without Bumrah, we're probably 3-0 down right now.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Possibly the best fast bowler since Curtley? I'm ranking him ahead of Steyn for sure, and probably McGrath because he played in a quality attack. But there is a risk Bumrah doesn't even get to 300 wickets because he gets over bowled.
Definely not better than Steyn at this point, nor McGrath.

Definitely top 8 or so among pacers in terms of quality.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Starting with the 70s, each decade/generation has had one (sometimes two) fast bowler who generally was agreed upon to be the best:

70s: Lillee
80s: Marshall/Hadlee
90s: Ambrose/Wasim
00s: McGrath
10s: Steyn
Now: Bumrah so far.
Think Bumrah is so far ahead already that we can skip the so far.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Bumrah at 62 wickets in Australia currently is 17 wickets away from overtaking Curtly Ambrose (78) for most wickets in Australia. I'd imagine he'd probably get half way there in the next test at the rate he's going. Either way, whether he plays another series and consequently takes the record (handily) or not, he has the lowest average of any bowler in Australia with more than 50 wickets. The next 2 names and also the only other bowlers with a sub-20 bowling average are Hadlee and Ambrose.

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Maximum of 9 wickets next match.
 

Coronis

International Coach
You guys reckon there’s any way Bumrah can be denied MOTS? If India loses and performs poorly and Smith gets another ton or two?
 

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