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james anderson averages 35 with the kookaburra

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GIMH said:
Most used ball - wrong. The fact its not used in India alone makes it wrong. The fact far more cricket is played in England than kookaburra nations also makes it so. So there's another one wrong.

He's been rested but not dropped for over a decade. That's a fact. The player he was rested for is Stuart Broad who is also a better bowler, and cricketer, than any that you masturbate over but let's not get greedy.

Nobody called him a 'genuine atg' so there you go with your straw man while you refuse to argue the actual points because you can't, you can't refute them. It's funny that you mentioned Richard earlier because you are actually beyond the territory he trod in when he went down the Hussain>Hayden path. You are reaching for everything you can, clinging to numbers that help you whilst ignoring the large body of evidence that makes you an idiot. History will prove you wrong, your opinion will be held somewhere beneath that view of Richard's and other such drivel.

So like I said. Debate my points or leave the forum. There's no way back for you.
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I do.

He's now the bowler in history with the most wickets after 30 - 342. Those taken at 23 as well.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...s-anderson-has-gotten-better-with-age-1251114

You can still be an ATG and have had a mixed start to your career. If you take 600 wickets at 26 (and from where he came from early on that's even more impressive) and you're still winning Tests for your country at 38, and you'll probably be doing it at 39 and quite possibly 40, you're an all time great. Whatever the definition of that is. Greatness isn't one factor. It's longevity. It's consistency. It's ability. It's influence. It's all of those things that make Jimmy Anderson most likely England's greatest bowler but also up there all time across the board.
 
Flem274*

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if 'james anderson is a disappointment with the kookaburra' is trolling then i genuinely give up on most of you tbh
 
TheJediBrah

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Flem274* said:
if 'james anderson is a disappointment with the kookaburra' is trolling then i genuinely give up on most of you tbh
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Some people just don't like facing up to the truth.
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Agree with these. Don't really get all the hate directed at Flem here lately. Yes it's overly aggressive targeting of a single player but it's all essentially true. Additionally it's kept this forum a lot more interesting lately than it would otherwise have been.
 
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TheJediBrah said:
Agree with these. Don't really get all the hate directed at Flem here lately. Yes it's overly aggressive targeting of a single player but it's all essentially true. Additionally it's kept this forum a lot more interesting lately than it would otherwise have been.
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it's better than that. they brought it on themselves. they dug this thread because anderson finally took some poles in sri lanka against their weakest side for over 20 years and lost their minds when i wasn't falling over myself to worship him.

i never went looking for round 2 of this. i did not start this fire, but it sure is bright.
 
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Unfortunately Flem, you're like a broken record with Anderson ... stuck in the same groove. Perhaps you were inoculated with a gramophone needle. (those references probably date me)
BTW, I just regard him as a very good bowler who has had an exceptionally long career. Not an ATG but very good.
 
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Flem274* said:
it's better than that. they brought it on themselves. they dug this thread because anderson finally took some poles in sri lanka against their weakest side for over 20 years and lost their minds when i wasn't falling over myself to worship him.

i never went looking for round 2 of this. i did not start this fire, but it sure is bright.
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The first part isn't what happened.

Anyway a bit of trolling is always fun, it's the fact you and others are trying to actually validate opinions that are actually embarrassing for a cricket forum of this quality. I made a string of rebuttals to your attempts to justify your nonsense the other day and all you could come back with was a number bereft of any context. You have no actual substance to your arguments whatsoever.

If you want to be a kiwi sledger, be funnier and do it driveby. It you want to be a kiwi Richard then your arguments need actual substance behind them (nonsense substance, but detail nonetheless). You don't have it in you to be a kiwi Burgey so I won't even go there. But if you want to troll, go ahead. Trying to retcon rank bait into a serious argument of merit is junk, and you lower yourself by acting this way.
 
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rather than trying to guess which random poster i want to be, try thinking about james anderson having a mediocre record with a commonly used test cricket ball and how that might influence how some of us view him.

i've been ramping my opinion to 11 for fun in this thread but my genuine opinion after digging for content to annoy the english during botm is james anderson is an atvg who falls short of true greatness due to a mediocre away record, highlighted in particular by his very mediocre returns with the kookaburra ball. this is verifiable statistically and visually, because i have watched many of his good and bad days with the kookaburra.

this means i do not think him incapable of bowling well without the duke (because he has at times) or that he is a bad bowler, because he is clearly a very good bowler.

if this is a troll opinion then we may as well call the place blindenglishguzzling dot net but fortunately posters of class, intelligence and irresistible charm like myself prevent cw from falling into such degeneracy. one of you (i cbf remembering who) dug this thread, i wasn't posting about anderson before you brought it down on you.
 
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GIMH said:
Anyway a bit of trolling is always fun, it's the fact you and others are trying to actually validate opinions that are actually embarrassing for a cricket forum of this quality.
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You keep saying this but not only are the opinions not "embarassing" but they're (repeating myself here) essentially accurate. Admittedly I haven't read through the minutae of every post so I may be missing some of these "embarassing" opinions that you are referring to but the general idea that Anderson has been more conditions-reliant than ATG bowlers, and most other ATVGs, is a pretty objective fact.

If the issue is that it keeps being brought up to bring him down when it's not really necessary or relevant, then that's definitely fair. But as Flem mentioned, he's not the one who brought it up again. It was you.
 
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