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Jacques Kallis vs Sachin Tendulkar

Kallis vs Tendulkar

  • Kallis

    Votes: 20 41.7%

  • Tendulkar

    Votes: 37 77.1%
  • Total voters
    48
J

Jack1

International Debutant
Tendulkar only took my vote because I met him and got his autograph. It’s a 50-50 otherwise.
 
J

Jumno

First Class Debutant
Coronis said:
Yeah but he never faced Kumble or Zaheer. Also what bs are you talking about, Tendulkar never played Marshall.

Also yeah… Kallis also faced all these bowlers.
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Tendulkar also faced Imran, Saqlain, Botham I'm sure (played in 92 WC).
 
J

Jack1

International Debutant
Coronis said:
Nah ODI’s and T20’s were invented for TV because most humans have a **** attention span and can’t grasp the actual strategy of the sport.
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The game is easier to follow on TV and much better on TV for a purist that enjoys bowling tactics in terms of line and length. If you aren’t in the right position live you can’t really grasp the game.
 
Gob

Gob

International Coach
Read it through. Interesting discussion regarding batting s/r

I don't mind players with a limited stroke range like Waugh, Cook going about it slowly but my beef with Jacques was that (If I had one) he could have batted like Ponting if he wanted but opted not to for all of his career except probably the last 3 years.

And before someone mention how difficult the batting was in South Africa, his away S/R (44) was lower than his home S/R. Great player but certainlt not a top tier ATG like Tendulkar
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Gob said:
Read it through. Interesting discussion regarding batting s/r

I don't mind players with a limited stroke range like Waugh, Cook going about it slowly but my beef with Jacques was that (If I had one) he could have batted like Ponting if he wanted but opted not to for all of his career except probably the last 3 years.

And before someone mention how difficult the batting was in South Africa, his away S/R (44) was lower than his home S/R. Great player but certainlt not a top tier ATG like Tendulkar
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Nobody really believes he’s as good as Tendulkar. People just voted him to piss off subshakerz and it worked perfectly.
 
Marius

Marius

International Debutant
Gob said:
Read it through. Interesting discussion regarding batting s/r

I don't mind players with a limited stroke range like Waugh, Cook going about it slowly but my beef with Jacques was that (If I had one) he could have batted like Ponting if he wanted but opted not to for all of his career except probably the last 3 years.

And before someone mention how difficult the batting was in South Africa, his away S/R (44) was lower than his home S/R. Great player but certainlt not a top tier ATG like Tendulkar
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Agreed, Kallis had all the shots but he certainly played within himself. He smashed what was the fastest test 50 at the time v Zimbabwe in 2005.

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But for whatever reason (and I partly agree with StephenZA here) Kallis had to be more of an anchor, rather than a strokemaker, although he certainly had the talent and strokes to be one of the entertainers.

I saw him described once as a roundhead in an era of cavaliers, and I think that sums it up quite nicely.
 
S

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Marius said:
But for whatever reason (and I partly agree with StephenZA here) Kallis had to be more of an anchor, rather than a strokemaker, although he certainly had the talent and strokes to be one of the entertainers.
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The thing is that Tendulkar often had to play that anchor role too and it's not like he was batting on steroids every innings. But he had the ability to step it up when he needed to.

The main critique is not just Kallis' slow batting but that he chose not to accelerate especially when when the match situation demanded.
 
Gob

Gob

International Coach
Marius said:
Agreed, Kallis had all the shots but he certainly played within himself. He smashed what was the fastest test 50 at the time v Zimbabwe in 2005.

www.espncricinfo.com

SA vs ZIM Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Cape Town, March 04 - 05, 2005

Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, SA vs ZIM, Zimbabwe tour of South Africa 2004/05 at Newlands, Cape Town dated March 04 - 05, 2005.
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com

But for whatever reason (and I partly agree with StephenZA here) Kallis had to be more of an anchor, rather than a strokemaker, although he certainly had the talent and strokes to be one of the entertainers.

I saw him described once as a roundhead in an era of cavaliers, and I think that sums it up quite nicely.
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The point I was trying to make was that some people used the excuse of helpful home decks as the reason for Kallis's slow S/R when he was even slower away. Imo he just batted slowly regardless of the conditions. Its also worth noticing that he has extremely high proportion of sixers especially compared to a guy who has such a low S/R which, without diving too much into stats, means there must be a lot blocks.

What really kicked in the last 3 years do you think? Was it Amla's coming good?
 
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