Bangladesh aren't test standard > Ireland should join forces with England, for mine. Finger spinners are useless on tracks that don't turn > Ireland should join forces with England as well TBH.FCA come into the worst three of Richard's pet topics for mine, together with Hayden is crap and Ireland should join forces with England.
Especially considering virtually every batsman's average will drop under first chance averages...1725 Runs at 37.50
I honestly dont how this is half as terrible as you make out
Cook and Butcher had\have-had-so-far a decent share of good fortune too.
When you look at where the runs were made it is.1725 Runs at 37.50
I honestly dont how this is half as terrible as you make out
FCA come into the worst three of Richard's pet topics for mine, together with Hayden is crap and Ireland should join forces with England.
Well, if you have time, I'd really enjoy seeing an analysis of a group of batsmen who you think have had a reasonably normal level of fortune. What is a good first chance average? It'd obviously have to be lower than a good scorebook average.
Perhaps I should have added a "YES, THIS POST WAS IN JEST!!!!!" disclaimer.
I realised yourself and Gelman's posts were in jest (at least to some extent) TBH but you both (at least seemed) to be meaning what you were saying.Perhaps I should have added a "YES, THIS POST WAS IN JEST!!!!!" disclaimer.
Yes, of course it would.
If they are speaking about then usually you should either realise they know or they don't by their argument.
We weren't saying that what you say is wrong, merely that you like to argue those topics whenever you can and have done so several times. I actually admire you for that in a way; after I've argued the same topic a few times on CW, I either have no interest in debating it again when it gets dragged up or get really, really infuriated with its resurfacing and end up exaggerating all my points. Your arguments are still consistent on all of of the topics and you never hesitate in trying to get your views across to as many people as possible.I realised yourself and Gelman's posts were in jest (at least to some extent) TBH but you both (at least seemed) to be meaning what you were saying.
There's damn good reason for myself saying all of Bangladesh aren't Test-class; the British Isles should play as one in cricket; first-chance averages are the best way to judge batsmen; spinners can't be effective without turn; and, yes, even runs-of-the-post-2001\02-period-are-not-what-they-seem.
IMO, it's romanticism to try to counter all such viewpoints.
On a serious note, it particularly annoys me when non-UK\Irish talk about the England-Ireland thing too because I never know how much of a clue they have on it. That was why LA-ICE E annoyed me so much because he was just some American talking mostly on stereotypes.
Certainly wrong decisions and run-outs when they're clearly not at fault (and I've said time and again that this is incorporated into first-chance averages as a not-out - hence, a first-chance average can be higher than a scorebook one, one such case being Strauss and 2006\07) but sadly freak catches and RUDs are just one of those things. An occupational hazard of batting, if you will - as the inability to bowl exactly what you want every time you bowl a delivery is an occupational hazard of bowling.
FFS now you ****ing tell me you're factoring in umpiring decision! All I've been using is dropped catches. **** sake.
Haha. OK. Interestingly, you and Gelman seem (from what I've discussed with him) to have different viewpoints on the matter and TBH I sort of see where he's coming from - for most people, it must get infuriating to see the same person say the same thing over and again, unless you agree completely with it (I never see anyone tire of telling someone that Murali isn't a chucker for instance).
A let-off is a let-off.
And a saw-off is a saw-off.
Oh, I can tell once they start getting involved - and in every case so far, those not resident of these isles haven't tended to know the first thing. But I can't really go saying "there's no point arguing this with an Australian \ with a Kiwi \ with a Trinidadian because they can't possibly have a clue what they're on about" because, well, it's not true and it'd be extremely nation-stereotypical, an attitude which I hate.
