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Ireland's chances

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Pup Clarke said:
Warne takes 40 wickets in a 5 match series and the England batsmen played him "pretty well"...8-).Yes there were alot of wickets to take but saying England batsmen played him "pretty well" is pure stupidity IMO.
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Did you actually watch the cricket? Someone was going to take the wickets and Warne was the most qualified. As I said, he bowled superbly, but anyone who actually watched the games without bias would have seen how well England handled Warne. I'm sure even Warne would admit it.
 
Richard

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Pup Clarke said:
It might have been "worthwhile" but TBH it didn't lessen Warne's impact.There's a huge difference with facing a bowling machine and playing in a match situation agianst Warne himself.Warne's success has alot to do with continous chirping of keeper+slips and the bowling machine can't replocate that.
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Exactly - but in 2 respects there Warne (and Murali) is pretty unique. I honestly believe if Merlyn hadn't been used Warne would probably have done even better in that series than he did.
 
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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Did you actually watch the cricket? Someone was going to take the wickets and Warne was the most qualified. As I said, he bowled superbly, but anyone who actually watched the games without bias would have seen how well England handled Warne. I'm sure even Warne would admit it.
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Bell most certainly couldn't play Warne very well and neither could Strauss.Why on earth would Warne say that the English batsmen handled him well when he had that big an impact?.
 
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Loony BoB

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I wonder how good Ireland would be if Joyce had stuck with them, or if it would have made much of a difference. I always find it to be a real shame. I figure Ireland have their chances of advancing slowed by players defecting to England.
 
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Pup Clarke said:
Bell most certainly couldn't play Warne very well and neither could Strauss.Why on earth would Warne say that the English batsmen handled him well when he had that big an impact.
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Bell couldn't play most of the bowlers in that series. He was too busy with his impression of a timid rabbit. And Strauss started poorly against spin, but grew in stature and confidence.

Be realistic. England was not bamboozled by Warne, bar Bell constantly and Strauss half the time. Besides, 15 of those wickets were Giles and downwards - again a reflection of the number of wickets available. With McGrath, Gillespie and Lee absent, there was a lot for Warne to reap.
 
Richard

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Loony BoB said:
I wonder how ``good Ireland would be if Joyce had stuck with them, or if it would have made much of a difference. I always find it to be a real shame. I figure Ireland have their chances of advancing slowed by players defecting to England.
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But why would Joyce have stuck with them?
 
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Richard said:
But why would Joyce have stuck with them?
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National pride? Desire to see Ireland progress forward and someday become a test nation? I don't know. But that's beside the point I was making. I was saying "if" not "he should have".
 
Richard

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Loony BoB said:
National pride? Desire to see Ireland progress forward and someday become a test nation? I don't know.
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Thing is, Ireland is part of The British Isles.

Would a Jamaican refuse to play for West Indies because of national pride?
 
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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
That's what I mean. Gillespie wasn't absent either. :p
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Aaaaaaaaahhhh, but he was for the final 2 Tests.

I seriously do wonder whether Gillespie was absent - whether someone stole his identity. It baffles me beyond most things that he finished one Aussie season in his normal guise then turned-up for the next one exactly as-you-were. Having had the mother of all shockers in his England tour. I just don't understand how someone could lose it so badly (Gillespie's fall was about as big as you can get) and then just go straight back to normal almost immidiately. :dontgetit A strange, strange case.
 
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