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Indian domestic season 2006-07

adharcric

International Coach
Gambhir and to an extent Uthappa should both be in the reckoning for a national call-up. Sehwag is difficult to drop despite having underperformed in ODIs for a long time now, so the only other way to squeeze in a reserve opener is to kick out Mongia (which won't happen now) or kick out a seamer (perhaps RP Singh, he's the expendable one of the lot at the moment). It all depends on how the Champions Trophy goes.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Irani Trophy: Rest of India Squad Preview

The Irani Trophy will take place from October 9th to 13th in Nagpur, with Uttar Pradesh facing off against a Rest of India lineup.
The selectors are due to meet tomorrow to name the ROI squad, so here's what I'd like to see.

Venugopal Rao (c), Dinesh Karthik (wk), Wasim Jaffer, Gautam Gambhir, Robin Uthappa, VVS Laxman, Sourav Ganguly, Subramaniam Badrinath, Joginder Sharma,
Zaheer Khan, VRV Singh, S Sreesanth, Siddarth Trivedi, Anil Kumble, Murali Kartik
 

adharcric

International Coach
Dinesh Karthik continues to impress. He could walk into the Indian test side and become one of the best glovesmen in international cricket. Batting has improved dramatically as well. Good chance he'll return to the test side in 2007, but a return to the one-day side will take a massive slump for Dhoni (ie his average falling below 35).
 

Gajanayake

School Boy/Girl Captain
adharcric said:
The Irani Trophy will take place from October 9th to 13th in Nagpur, with Uttar Pradesh facing off against a Rest of India lineup.
The selectors are due to meet tomorrow to name the ROI squad, so here's what I'd like to see.

Venugopal Rao (c), Dinesh Karthik (wk), Wasim Jaffer, Gautam Gambhir, Robin Uthappa, VVS Laxman, Sourav Ganguly, Subramaniam Badrinath, Joginder Sharma,
Zaheer Khan, VRV Singh, S Sreesanth, Siddarth Trivedi, Anil Kumble, Murali Kartik

My team:

Jaffer, Gambhir, Rao, Laxman, Badrinath, Powar, D Karthik, Kumble, M Karthik, VRV, Sreesanth, Zaheer, Nehra, Balaji

I'd like to see them give chances to players who are genuine shots at making the South Africa bound test team. I don't think Guys like Trivedi, Uthapppa and Ganguly are test prospects.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Gajanayake said:
My team:

Jaffer, Gambhir, Rao, Laxman, Badrinath, Powar, D Karthik, Kumble, M Karthik, VRV, Sreesanth, Zaheer, Nehra, Balaji

I'd like to see them give chances to players who are genuine shots at making the South Africa bound test team. I don't think Guys like Trivedi, Uthapppa and Ganguly are test prospects.
Powar will have the CT starting two days after this match so I don't see it happening. Nehra will never play test cricket for India again. Trivedi is better than Balaji at the moment and whoever makes it will be the reserve seamer anyways. Uthappa scored half-centuries against Australia in the Top End series and should not be written off as a ODI specialist simply because he's a good ODI batsman. Once again, he'll be a reserve even if he makes it.
 

Gajanayake

School Boy/Girl Captain
adharcric said:
Powar will have the CT starting two days after this match so I don't see it happening. Nehra will never play test cricket for India again. Trivedi is better than Balaji at the moment and whoever makes it will be the reserve seamer anyways. Uthappa scored half-centuries against Australia in the Top End series and should not be written off as a ODI specialist simply because he's a good ODI batsman. Once again, he'll be a reserve even if he makes it.
I don't know how much of Trivedi you've seen but he's pretty average.....even guys like AAvishkar Salvi, R Vinay Kumar or Pankaj Singh would be better choices


Uthappa still needs to prove himself at Ranji/Duleep level. Shekar Dhawan would be a better backup to Gambhir/Jaffer.
 

Gajanayake

School Boy/Girl Captain
Gajanayake said:
I don't know how much of Trivedi you've seen but he's pretty average.....even guys like AAvishkar Salvi, R Vinay Kumar or Pankaj Singh would be better choices


Uthappa still needs to prove himself at Ranji/Duleep level. Shekar Dhawan would be a better backup to Gambhir/Jaffer.

Oh and I should add, that if you seriously think Zaheer will become a decent test bowler for India, think again.....he's been given plenty of chances (42 tests) and has largely been found wanting.
 

Dravid

International Captain
Xuhaib said:
Sreesanth ends Dada's dreams.
I think this was the last chance for him, and he failed. I highly doubt there will be another opportunity for Ganguly to come back. This probably his best bet to come back into the squad, but he didn't take advantage of it. He did bowl better than I expected, but that's not good enough to bring him back into the squad.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Dhoni in tests, Sehwag in ODIs... watch out.

So glad to see Gambhir score again, I've always felt he's a shoo-in for the Indian ODI opener in the future, and that's why I open him for India in International Cricket Captain :D

Chawla scoring some runs is good too.

Ganguly failed though, disappointing. Another nail in the coffin, there's about 20 now I reckon.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
http://wwwc1.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/261168.html

And, oddly enough, it was those to whom this tournament should have mattered the least, who made the most of it. Gautam Gambhir is out of the Indian team now, but he is no stranger to scoring in domestic cricket. The problem is that the quality of bowlers, and their discipline, is so superior in international cricket, that Gambhir's obvious weaknesses are exploited, and his strengths and scoring areas curtailed. That he scored 110 and 74 is really not going to convince either the team management or the selectors that he should be given another serious go.

Y Venugopala Rao is another of those journeymen. Though he batted well, and led imaginatively, he isn't quite going to crash his way back into the scheme of things. Similarly, the two wicketkeepers - Parthiv Patel and Dinesh Karthik - have little or no chance of getting ahead of Mahendra Singh Dhoni with the big gloves. Neither is as destructive a batsman, though both are well above average, and Dhoni's keeping has come along well enough to obviate the need for someone whose glovework is perfect at the cost of a batting talent.
Is it me, or is this guy a little off in these remarks. Firstly, Gambhir didn't fail in his first stint of ODI cricket because of his 'technique', and weaknesses, its because he threw away starts by not concentrating. Compltely different to the reasons behind his failed test career.

Regarding Karthik, IMO Dhoni's test spot isn't as secure as he'd like to make out to be. I understand his overall point regarding the fact that int'l bowlers are different to the ones Gambhir and Karthik scored against in this series, but its still very promising.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Gambhir should definitely be in the reckoning for the one-day opening spot aside Tendulkar. Sehwag is a "match-winner" who rarely ever performs and pretty much never performs against Australia when it's really needed. A class batsman getting bowled through the gate so often is quite disturbing and Sehwag doesn't really deserve his spot in the team. The vice-captaincy makes things worse. Sehwag better do well in the CT or else he should really make room for Gambhir. Yuvraj should be vice-captain.

Karthik has the talent and temperament with both bat and gloves to succeed in both forms of the game. He should definitely have a chance to replace Dhoni if the latter fails to impress in the next overseas tour or two.

Zaheer, VRV and Sreesanth all look sharp and fit (especially Zaheer, must've lost 20 lbs at least), which is a good sign. From now until the tour of South Africa, we should make our top test prospects play Ranji/Duleep/Irani trophy matches to gain form. That means Pathan, Munaf, Sreesanth, Zaheer, VRV and RPS.

Today's match should be a good contest - good batting and bowling on both sides. Kaif and Raina should be ashamed. (random comment)
 

viktor

State Vice-Captain
Jono said:
http://wwwc1.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/261168.html



Is it me, or is this guy a little off in these remarks. Firstly, Gambhir didn't fail in his first stint of ODI cricket because of his 'technique', and weaknesses, its because he threw away starts by not concentrating. Compltely different to the reasons behind his failed test career.

Regarding Karthik, IMO Dhoni's test spot isn't as secure as he'd like to make out to be. I understand his overall point regarding the fact that int'l bowlers are different to the ones Gambhir and Karthik scored against in this series, but its still very promising.
Agree, especially about keeper bit.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Jono said:
http://wwwc1.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/261168.html



Is it me, or is this guy a little off in these remarks. Firstly, Gambhir didn't fail in his first stint of ODI cricket because of his 'technique', and weaknesses, its because he threw away starts by not concentrating. Compltely different to the reasons behind his failed test career.

Regarding Karthik, IMO Dhoni's test spot isn't as secure as he'd like to make out to be. I understand his overall point regarding the fact that int'l bowlers are different to the ones Gambhir and Karthik scored against in this series, but its still very promising.
Even Dhoni is only scoring runs against pathetic bowling at the moment. So he isn't international class too, gng by this guy's brilliant (?) logic. The guy is just a bit biased IMO. He has made up his mind that certain fringe players are not good enough. I really dont understand how runs from Gambhir are not important but runs from someone like Dravid against the same bowling, are important. The guy makes no sense in that article.
 

adharcric

International Coach
honestbharani said:
Even Dhoni is only scoring runs against pathetic bowling at the moment. So he isn't international class too, gng by this guy's brilliant (?) logic. The guy is just a bit biased IMO. He has made up his mind that certain fringe players are not good enough. I really dont understand how runs from Gambhir are not important but runs from someone like Dravid against the same bowling, are important. The guy makes no sense in that article.
Well you can see what he's trying to say and it makes sense in the case of someone like Venugopal Rao, who keeps belting run-a-ball knocks in Challenger matches and then bats pathetically in international or A team ODIs. Gambhir always showed that he had the class to play at the top level though; it was merely throwing away the starts that was an issue for him.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Some international attacks in action today (not Indian) are as bad as, if not worse than, the Challenger bowling lineups, on any day. They just have to grab their opportunities when they come.

Anyway, as the final is interrupted by rain, the Irani Trophy squad has been announced. If that's not been mentioned, here it is:
  • Jaffer (C)
  • Gambhir
  • Uthappa
  • Badrinath
  • Venugopal (VC)
  • Rohit Sharma
  • Dinesh Karthik (WK)
  • Pragyan Ojha (OB)
  • VRV Singh (RFM)
  • Zaheer (LFM)
  • Sreesanth (RFM)
  • Murali Karthik (SLA)
  • Sourashish Lahiri (OB)
  • V Yomahesh (RM)
Decent selection, but there are no all-rounders in the team, which is disappointing. Why are the likes of JP Yadav and Joginder Sharma left out so often? What have they to do to get the selectors's nod? They move the ball quite well, and while they lack pace, so do all other pace bowlers whom the selectors are looking at right now. Moreover, they're better fielders and can score more than a few runs. Clearly, the selectors have missed a trick here.

Still, it seems they've got the batting top-five settled. They have only picked six batsmen, and one of them (opener) will sit out. Pragyan Ojha will be one to watch, while Karthik and Lahiri have been far from impressive in the Challenger series. Picking Zaheer, Sreesanth and VRV is a good idea, but VRV Singh isn't any faster than Joginder Sharma, the all-rounder prospect dropped after the Bangladesh tour, or the new-found all-rounder prospect Pravin Kumar. Maybe the selectors expect him to suddenly crank up pace from out of nowhere and blast thE UP batsmen out.
 

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