Ian Botham vs Kapil Dev

[smash84]

Convincing argument.

haha......so awta

 

[smash84]

Time for me to post some of the incredible achievements by Botham:

• Only cricketer to pick 5 wkts in an innings and score a century in the same match 5 times. No one did it more than twice.
• Only cricketer to take 10+ fivers and 10+ hundreds
• Only cricketer to break the 800 ICC rating point barrier both as batsman and as bowler

For someone so unbelievably gifted, it's a sad thing that he could not maintain the levels of commitment / did not hang his boot at the right time.

Impressive indeed.

 

[Athlai]

I learned a long time ago that there's no such thing as a convincing argument on this forum, so two lines is my maximum otherwise it gives someone an excuse to get the slide rule out.

Your time here is well spent.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Time for me to post some of the incredible achievements by Botham:

• Only cricketer to pick 5 wkts in an innings and score a century in the same match 5 times. No one did it more than twice.
• Only cricketer to take 10+ fivers and 10+ hundreds
• Only cricketer to break the 800 ICC rating point barrier both as batsman and as bowler

For someone so unbelievably gifted, it's a sad thing that he could not maintain the levels of commitment / did not hang his boot at the right time.

Best all rounder ever, stats above back it up. The fact he played for at least 5 years longer than he should as the England selectors were clueless isn't his fault.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Your time here is well spent.

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[G.I.Joe]

Kapil was better against the WI. Wasn't even close.

Overall, I can't decide.

 

[kyear2]

Time for me to post some of the incredible achievements by Botham:

• Only cricketer to pick 5 wkts in an innings and score a century in the same match 5 times. No one did it more than twice.
• Only cricketer to take 10+ fivers and 10+ hundreds
• Only cricketer to break the 800 ICC rating point barrier both as batsman and as bowler

For someone so unbelievably gifted, it's a sad thing that he could not maintain the levels of commitment / did not hang his boot at the right time.

Impressive indeed and another example as to why career averages are over rated and doesnt give a true indication of a players quality.

N.B.
The longer I stay on this forum the better the all time England teams looks.

 

[keeper]

For someone so unbelievably gifted, it's a sad thing that he could not maintain the levels of commitment / did not hang his boot at the right time.

Thing I've never understood is how Botham has managed to look fitter in the SKY commentary box that he did in the last few years of his career.

In comparing all-rounders I think the debate often under-estimates how often Botham batted in the top six.

Miss both of them. Forget the stats and revel in the joie de vivre each brought to the game.

 

[keeper]

Impressive indeed and another example as to why career averages are over rated and doesnt give a true indication of a players quality.

N.B.
The longer I stay on this forum the better the all time England teams looks.

Stick with us, we'll have you believing we were the team of the nineties by Christmas

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Thing I've never understood is how Botham has managed to look fitter in the SKY commentary box that he did in the last few years of his career.

Very true. Maybe he has totally cut out beer now and just drinks wine instead.

 

[smash84]

Both of them against the best team of their era

All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Anil]

botham the better test all-rounder
kapil the better one day all-rounder

 

[ankitj]

These two share a unique distinction - they are the only two cricketers who featured in both Wisden's top 100 batting and bowling performances.

 

[Howe_zat]

Very surprised to see this so one-sided.

 

[kyear2]

Stick with us, we'll have you believing we were the team of the nineties by Christmas

Just meant in relation to larwood (who though I still believe to be slightly over rated), and now Botham.
Botham and Miller may be the only two genuine top drawer all rounders.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Very surprised to see this so one-sided.

Indians all in bed? Soon change once they stir.

 

[smash84]

Indians all in bed? Soon change once they stir.

lol.....not quite I should think.

Ankit is Indian and he has been posting so many stats in favor of Botham

Ikki to come out in support of Kapil

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Indians all in bed? Soon change once they stir.

Most Indians on this site are very fair and balanced in their views. In fact I can say that about most people on this site.

 

[karan316]

I think Botham is clearly the better allrounder,
but Kapil will always be a hero for the Indians, if India wouldn't have won that 1983 WC under Kapil's captaincy, then cricket wouldn't have been so popular in India.
He is the greatest cricketer India has produced.

 

[karan316]

botham the better test all-rounder
kapil the better one day all-rounder

Agree with you.