Ian Botham vs Dennis Lillee

[capt_Luffy]

You need some stakes. Like me about Root

I gave the stakes for the best between you and GIMH, you can make the ones here.

 

[Johan]

I would be interested why you rate Ambrose ahead of Steyn.

I rate performances in/against Australia/England pretty highly when it comes to pacers.

 

[DrWolverine]

If Bumrah picks up 25-30 wickets in England and manages to keep his overall average below 20, things would be interesting in GOAT debate for bowlers

 

[Johan]

@capt_Luffy should offer a bet. If he does, Len Hutton<Gavaskar probably?

Hahhaha, No. how about Bumrah > Freddie if Bumrah takes 25

 

[subshakerz]

Blah blah it's all to downgrade Ambrose. Lillee is if Ashwin only played at home and SL and averages way higher, and had one SA tour, significantly worse than any of his SA tours.

Translation: 'I already have a fixed order, please don't spoil it for me with annoying facts'.

Explain to me how Ambrose is better in England than Lillee. I would be interested in what you have to say.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hahhaha, No. how about Bumrah > Freddie if Bumrah takes 25

I mean, it will just be obvious. Not really something to bet upon.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Translation: 'I already have a fixed order, please don't spoil it for me with annoying facts'.

Explain to me how Ambrose is better in England than Lillee. I would be interested in what you have to say.

Frankly, I will later. Now busy with the bet.

 

[subshakerz]

I rate performances in/against Australia/England pretty highly when it comes to pacers.

Clearly. But it's like rating Ambrose higher based on him doing better in conditions ideally suited for him.

 

[Johan]

I mean, it will just be obvious. Not really something to bet upon.

How about If Bumrah takes more than 25, I concede that he's better than Warne.

 

[DrWolverine]

How about If Bumrah takes more than 25, I concede that he's better than Warne.

Really?

 

[Johan]

Really?

Yeah that's the bet duh

 

[Thala_0710]

Okay then, I bet India wins atleast 2 games and Bumrah takes 25+ wickets.

We won't win 2 games mate. Just bet on the Bumrah thing

 

[Johan]

We won't win 2 games mate. Just bet on the Bumrah thing

don't ***** out @capt_Luffy

 

[Coronis]

I do love Windies in NZ stats tho.

Windies pacers in NZ
Walsh 7 matches 32 @ 20.75
Garner 5 matches 26 @ 16.92
Marshall 3 matches 9 @ 32.11
Holding 4 matches 7 @ 47.85
Ambrose 2 matches 5 @ 22.60
Roberts 2 matches 3 @ 65.33

Batsmen
Chanderpaul 12 matches 751 @ 46.93
Greenidge 6 matches 618 @ 56.18
Lara 7 matches 406 @ 36.90
Lloyd 6 matches 168 @ 15.27
Sobers 7 matches 151 @ 15.10
Richards 3 matches 77 @ 19.25

 

[subshakerz]

How about If Bumrah takes more than 25, I concede that he's better than Warne.

Ugh don't do that.

 

[Johan]

Ugh don't do that.

chill, have faith in the new English batting/Bumrah breaking down

 

[Thala_0710]

chill, have faith in the new English batting/Bumrah breaking down

Duckett like confidence

 

[DrWolverine]

What if Bumrah takes 25 wickets in 3 Tests and then does not play the next 2 test matches?

 

[Thala_0710]

I do love Windies in NZ stats tho.

Windies pacers in NZ
Walsh 7 matches 32 @ 20.75
Garner 5 matches 26 @ 16.92
Marshall 3 matches 9 @ 32.11
Holding 4 matches 7 @ 47.85
Ambrose 2 matches 5 @ 22.60
Roberts 2 matches 3 @ 65.33

Batsmen
Chanderpaul 12 matches 751 @ 46.93
Greenidge 6 matches 618 @ 56.18
Lara 7 matches 406 @ 36.90
Lloyd 6 matches 168 @ 15.27
Sobers 7 matches 151 @ 15.10
Richards 3 matches 77 @ 19.25

Performance against NZ is inversely proportional to quality

 

[Coronis]

I gave the stakes for the best between you and GIMH, you can make the ones here.

For you hmmm…. Hill > Trumper or something to do with Ponting. For Johan, something to do with Compton. But I forget where exactly he rates him.