How old were you....

[Neil Pickup]

There's realism and there's being ****. This falls well into the latter category.

 

[Tom Halsey]

I don't like the retiring idea.

Just use it for Under 19 matches and nothing else.

 

[Kweek]

its quiet funny to see all the CW XI players are against retiring ideas, and the non CWXI ers are mostly pro it....
interesting

 

[Magrat Garlick]

There's realism and there's being ****. This falls well into the latter category.

Yep, agreed. There's enough natural retirement as there is.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

There's not going to be any retirement for about 2 years at least with or without a system, so everyone just chill. We've got at least a year and a half to mull it over.

 

[roseboy64]

its quiet funny to see all the CW XI players are against retiring ideas, and the non CWXI ers are mostly pro it....
interesting

That's because they've been here the longest and had gotten used to the idea of not retiring.

 

[Loony BoB]

Even if I was in the CWXI I'd still be pro-retirement. I think it's a fair thing to do.

Also, not all CWXI are against the idea. In fact, I haven't seen too many being very vocal against it yet. Neil, Tom, Vimes... some players have already retired (or semi-retired), and other CWXI players have posted in this thread without any real argument to it (including Liam, and from what I've seen buggsy isn't crying a river over the idea either).

Like I said, I'm not all about retirement but I do think that aging should come into play, because no player is immortal. I mean, if we're going to have non-CWLand teams such as Windies, Australia and England all going through players over the years, why not have the same for ourselves? What Neil is suggesting is that our players are immortal, and this in my opinion is a bad thing for the game, not a good thing.

Liam's right that we have loads of time though.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I signed up at the start of 2005, so I was 19.

 

[marc71178]

What Neil is suggesting is that our players are immortal, and this in my opinion is a bad thing for the game, not a good thing.

But one big problem with it is that those who signed up early are being aged for barely any games in comparison to the current program.

 

[Loony BoB]

But one big problem with it is that those who signed up early are being aged for barely any games in comparison to the current program.

I'm guessing the first premiership football season, in whatever it's original format was back when the FA first began, was not as long as it is these days either.

Assuming 'barely any' is the 16 games they played, ie half the amount it is now, we could just take a year off their age for every two seasons they played under that season length. If it will satisfy those complaining about having to eventually retire, then I think we can make that kind of compromise.

 

[age_master]

without really adding to the argument too much i would like to say that im pro-retirement.

Not sure exactly how it would work but as Liam said there is 2 years to think about it anyway.

 

[Robertinho]

Like I said, I'm not all about retirement but I do think that aging should come into play, because no player is immortal. I mean, if we're going to have non-CWLand teams such as Windies, Australia and England all going through players over the years, why not have the same for ourselves? What Neil is suggesting is that our players are immortal, and this in my opinion is a bad thing for the game, not a good thing.

Hmm.. you may have a point there. Maybe it isn't such a bad idea

 

[Cloete]

its quiet funny to see all the CW XI players are against retiring ideas, and the non CWXI ers are mostly pro it....
interesting

Which isn't a massive surprise. Because we've all been around for a while and now all of a sudden we're told by Towns (A newer player believe it or not ) that because we've been around for that long and we've stayed commited that we should be punished so that he can have our place in the team.

There's enough changing of the guard as it is. How fair is it to punish people becuase they've been around for that long when retirement was never talked about.

 

[Tom Halsey]

I'm against it because I don't see why we should be forced out of it. It's for everyone after all.

And I wouldn't re-incarnate, because it just wouldn't be the same, personally speaking.

 

[Robertinho]

I guess the real question is, how far are you willing to go in the name of realism - sure, this would make the game more realistic, but is it really fair to do this to the veterans?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

What Neil is suggesting is that our players are immortal, and this in my opinion is a bad thing for the game, not a good thing.

No, of course they're not immortal. When Neil dies, presumably so does the CW NS Pickup.

 

[Prince EWS]

24-11-2004

That'd make me sixteen at the time.

 

[Loony BoB]

Which isn't a massive surprise. Because we've all been around for a while and now all of a sudden we're told by Towns (A newer player believe it or not ) that because we've been around for that long and we've stayed commited that we should be punished so that he can have our place in the team.

There's enough changing of the guard as it is. How fair is it to punish people becuase they've been around for that long when retirement was never talked about.

If I had to retire from internationals early just to get people to think that I actually do care about this place more than I care about my personal status in it, then I probably would. I'd hate for people to question my integrity in that way. I have no alterior motives with this suggestion.

 

[KennyD]

I think Towns has proved countless times over with his ingenuity, contribution with stats, and genuine care for the CW system that he isn't seeking personal internet glory from this idea.

Its a good idea Towns, and for all those who are saying they are "punished" for signing up earlier, it isn't! Don't act as though the retirement will only apply to you Older players have had 6,7,8,9,10 seasons here, you've had a long time. The newer players will also have to retire as well someday, and I bet by the time they retire, they'll have played a similar length to the current oldies.

But one big problem with it is that those who signed up early are being aged for barely any games in comparison to the current program

This is a problem I guess. But what Towns said is good.

Assuming 'barely any' is the 16 games they played, ie half the amount it is now, we could just take a year off their age for every two seasons they played under that season length. If it will satisfy those complaining about having to eventually retire, then I think we can make that kind of compromise.

 

[Robertinho]

The only thing I'm against is "reincarnations". It wouldn't be the same.