How many nations do you prefer for the 2015 WC?

[Faisal1985]

Its appalling to say the least that in a world cup you will not have teams who can qualify on merit. It is ******** to say the least.

Its supposed to be Cricket's biggest event, so make it one FFS.

 

[slugger]

this is how I would do it.

The champions trophey becomes a Knock out format invovling 16 team
16 - 8 - 4 - 2 (Final)

played every year. as a team you are rewarded point for which stage you exited the tournement.

16 = 1 point
8 = 2 points
4 = 3 points
final = 4 points
winner = 5 points

which means the highest possible score is 20 which means the same team as won 4 consective ct titles.
the lowest possible score to qualify for the wc finals is a little harder to work out, i would expect that a team would have had at least made the 8's atleast twice given them 6 points.


the top 10 teams are taken from these matches to go into the world cup every 4th year.

to get into the world cup is based on your points gained across the last 4 CT tournements.

 

[slugger]

once the you have the 10 teams qualified. it is played like the 92 version every team plays each other once. the top 4 progress to the semis then the finals 1 vs 4 2 vs 3 etc.

 

[Somerset]

I've tended to maintain the view that the World Cup deserves the highest quality of cricket, and the number of associate sides needs to limited though not entirely excluded. I think a 12 team format is the best option, splitting the sides into two groups of 6, at which point a Super Six format could be used. Effectively that would mean the sides that reach the final play 10 matches which I think is appropriate, almost every match would have some meaning, and the associate nations are not entirely excluded.

 

[slugger]

the reason i came up with my system is because i think the problem is the idea to qualify for the world cup is flawed no team should have automactic entry. in the soccer world cup only the host nation has this right, this is how the cricket should function... thats why the ct tournment is the perfect tournment to prove you worthyness as its knock out its fast but your points are accumaled over a period of 4 years for one of the test nations not to qualify would be near to impossible but this really gives the bottom teir something to aim for it would require 4 years of consistant reward at the ct tournement thus by the time they get to world cup would make them worthy participants.

 

[vcs]

I'd like to see how 14 works before I decide.

I do think the minnows can't win sometimes tho; if the 8 major test nations make the Super 8s some folk complain the group stages are glorified warm ups and if, like last time, they have the temerity to beat some of the major nations others moan it leaves too many meaningless games.

Yeah, this. Hate the moaning about early upsets of big nations "ruining the tournament". Their own damn fault for not turning up, FFS.

 

[Jono]

In the last two World Cups, Kenya have made it to the semis and Bangladesh and Ireland have qualified to the super 8s right?

So how can anyone justify potentially leaving out these countries. I understand that with 10 teams Bang + 1 will play, but jeez.

 

[_Ed_]

And before that, Bangladesh beat Pakistan in 1999 (and Zimbabwe went reasonably deep into the tournament) and Kenya beat WI in 1995/6.

It's true that there are a lot of one-sided games against the associates, but there's always at least a game or two in which they really put up a great fight and provide a thrilling match. The minnows have given me some of my favourite World Cup memories. The reduction in the number of teams to 10 is a real shame, IMO.

 

[Burgey]

One.

 

[Athlai]

16 but a handful of games would be plenty. 07 did drag out a bit in the super 8 stage.

 

[morgieb]

16 but a handful of games would be plenty. 07 did drag out a bit in the super 8 stage.

Only reason why the Super 8 dragged out was that there was 2 obvious weak links (Kenya and Bangladesh), 1 side that couldn't be beaten (Australia) and 3 sides that were pretty average (England, West Indies and South Africa)

That being said, I'd go 14. Pretty much because I don't think there are 6 minnows that can win games.

 

[Athlai]

Only reason why the Super 8 dragged out was that there was 2 obvious weak links (Kenya and Bangladesh), 1 side that couldn't be beaten (Australia) and 3 sides that were pretty average (England, West Indies and South Africa)

That being said, I'd go 14. Pretty much because I don't think there are 6 minnows that can win games.

Still no need for 30+ matches that the super 8s provide, too many basically pointless matches.

 

[jashan83]

14th Nation 2015 WC

The 2015 WC should be a 14 nation WC itself. And we should not have Super 8's or 6's. Many people do not get that and thus wanes interest. Instead we should have QF, SF & Finals.

Another proposal of 15 Nation WC with 3 groups of 5 is also Good. Here the top 6 should qualify and rest of the 2 should be decided out of the 3 teams who have come 3rd in groups. First criteria teams with highest points. Then in case here it is a tie then RR should come in.

20 20 WC should be a 16 nation and over time say 4 years extended to 18 nations and over next some time a 20 Nation Cup.

 

[Somerset]

20 20 WC should be a 16 nation and over time say 4 years extended to 18 nations and over next some time a 20 Nation Cup.

I've got no problem with expanding the T20 World Cup, and think thats the ideal place for the associate sides with less international experience to gain some exposure against the very best nations. In a sense, ditto the Champions Trophy.

 

[Uppercut]

Anything more the WC will be diluted. We did see how Ireland and Bangladesh Stunk up the place after just one upset in the 2007 WC

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[Redbacks]

What ever raises the most revenue I guess is going to be the answer.

Would prefer to have 16 teams with group stages, scrap the super eights and just go to quarter finals.

 

[Uppercut]

What ever raises the most revenue I guess is going to be the answer.

Would prefer to have 16 teams with group stages, scrap the super eights and just go to quarter finals.

Yeah, I like the sound of that format.

 

[Migara]

AUS, AUS A, BAN, ENG, ENG A, NZ, IND, IND A, PAK, PAK A, SAF, SAF A, SL, SL A, WI, KEN, NED, AFG, IRE, ZIM in four groups. No A team should play their A tem in the groups. Select the top 8, quarters -> semis -> finals -> WC

That will allow more quality cricket at least.

 

[Janus]

To all you sanctimonious, elitist, statistic brandishing ****** how can a tournament be called a "world cup" if the tournament is a closed shop? All of these arguments about quality and statistics are just symptomatic of the narrow-minded cult like edifice that is the ICC. What other sport worldwide advocates the total segregation of teams based on some supposed level of quality which is impossible to measure accurately. How is it that a team can play world cup matches and win and yet still walk away with prize money that wouldn't even pay for the time and effort of attending the tournament, yet another team gets millions for winning nothing?

In football nobody says that San Marino should be excluded on grounds of quality, nobody cares if they lose to German 8-0. Nobody even cares if a new world record goal score happens against a weak team. The point is that these weak teams have a chance.

I'm not surprised by any of this as despite being called the International Cricket Council the ICC still maintains that Elitist attitude of the Imperial Cricket Council. The Only answer that makes sense is braking away from this corrupt force and forming a truly fair and sporting institution, a governing body that puts the sport first and consigns the elitists to the age of Amateur captains and fat, over Lunched batsmen.

Incidentally I believe the world cup should be abolished and replaced with an Ice hockey style International league structure with promotion and relegation between the divisions.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Been waiting for someone to walk into the thread and let rip into everybody for suggesting that the associates should be removed. I am not disappointed