sayon basak
International Captain
That's not what I meant by that. I meant, pick the best player, and then assume that it's his prime that's gonna play in the AT team.
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Help me figure out who the No. 5 in my AT XI should be (Richards vs Others)
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Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Imran as batsman likely to cause more damage to the opponents.
They'd prefer Hadlee over Imran for sure.
kyear2
International Coach
I'll post this before reading the thread then tap back.
Viv is a lock for me, and at 4.
He's the best ever player of fast bowling, capable of taking apart an attack and turning around a game like no one else in the line up. At his peak don't think there's ever been anyone better and he's the one batsman in this line up who's skills are hardest to replicate.
He's also the second or third best 3rd slip I've ever seen and just as brilliant, and one of the ATGs in the in or outfield when not standing in the cordon.
If I were temped to replace any one batsman in this lineup, which I'm not, an argument could be made for Sachin to be replaced by Hammond. Batsmen of similar style and temperament who can be the stabilizing force between the carnage of the other players in the middle order. Critically he's one of the two greatest first slip fielders of all time and makes the cordon bullet proof. Can also roll over his hand for a few overs as a 6th bowler if required in a pinch.
But yeah, happy with the line up as is and the cordon is good enough as it stands with Barry at 1st.
Viv is a lock for me, and at 4.
He's the best ever player of fast bowling, capable of taking apart an attack and turning around a game like no one else in the line up. At his peak don't think there's ever been anyone better and he's the one batsman in this line up who's skills are hardest to replicate.
He's also the second or third best 3rd slip I've ever seen and just as brilliant, and one of the ATGs in the in or outfield when not standing in the cordon.
If I were temped to replace any one batsman in this lineup, which I'm not, an argument could be made for Sachin to be replaced by Hammond. Batsmen of similar style and temperament who can be the stabilizing force between the carnage of the other players in the middle order. Critically he's one of the two greatest first slip fielders of all time and makes the cordon bullet proof. Can also roll over his hand for a few overs as a 6th bowler if required in a pinch.
But yeah, happy with the line up as is and the cordon is good enough as it stands with Barry at 1st.
kyear2
International Coach
That's why I have Sachin at 5, and the better player of spin.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
3. Viv 62 avg
4. Sobers 64 avg
5. Sachin 60 avg
6. Bradman 97 avg
4. Sobers 64 avg
5. Sachin 60 avg
6. Bradman 97 avg
kyear2
International Coach
Too much bowling, batting way too short.
Also Gilly magnitudes better batsman than Imran, and the only reason or excuse to have that many bowlers is to include two spinners.
Even when Australia had Gilly, they were reluctant to bat him at 6 and play the extra bowler. It leaves the batting too exposed.
Again, unless you need to have two spinners, and even then, Sobers is more than enough as a 5th bowler.
Respectfully, not a good lineup and serous overkill with the bowling and no matter which year you select Imran for his bowling, his batting isn't nearly no. 6 ATG quality. Gilly I'm not even sure of at this level.
kyear2
International Coach
Batsmen can bat in any position, and going downward isn't a challenge. It's about where they can best the team.
kyear2
International Coach
This is what happens when people get carried away with the 50 / 19 spiel.
At no point was he that calibre of batsman.
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kyear2
International Coach
That's never been successful in test cricket, and in that instance, even Miller is a better option.
You're weakening the batting way too much for minimal gain imo, and again, Sobers along with the spinner is a much better option for the dog overs.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
This would be a jump up similar to if not actually even greater than FC domestic cricket to Tests. Not many Test #5s bat there domestically because it's a waste. Looking for a specialist #5 from two levels below is silly.
I don't pick Viv just because I don't think he was as good as Hammond (or indeed several others), but it shouldn't be about his batting position.
I don't pick Viv just because I don't think he was as good as Hammond (or indeed several others), but it shouldn't be about his batting position.
kyear2
International Coach
Once Warne's batting is removed from consideration, O'Reilly is as good an option as anyone.
kyear2
International Coach
Most of that batting average came in the past 3 years. You can't take '82 bowler and '89 batsman. And none of them were no. 6 ATG quality.
It doesn't make any sense.
kyear2
International Coach
Decent efforts
the debates in my mind were Hadlee or Murali and Ponting or Hammond or Headley
kyear2
International Coach
I was going to mention the latter.
Hammond is just the better all round cricketer than Punter, but Ponting too is no slouch.
Also with Imran already in the 2nd, thought you would consider Ambrose as a better new ball bowler than Wasim.
But no concerns with the first besides my one man crusade.
sayon basak
International Captain
Oh you got me.
Imran as batsman likely to cause more damage to the opponents.
They'd prefer Hadlee over Imran for sure.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Viv should be 4. Tendulkar no.5