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Group B - Pakistan, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka
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Dick Rockett
International Vice-Captain
Probably relieved he's gotten through another delivery without breaking down.Loony BoB said:
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
If NZ want to win this tournament though, they'll need more runs from the top #4. I can't see Ross Taylor being chucked in to a semi final match but to be honest, he could add a surprise element because Lou Vincent is hopeless right now.
If anything, the final should be played at that ground because at least we're seeing runs while the bowlers can also still be in the game if they bowl well.
If anything, the final should be played at that ground because at least we're seeing runs while the bowlers can also still be in the game if they bowl well.
Sir Redman
State Vice-Captain
Rather tired today, after staying up until 10 past six this morning watching. Wasn't the greatest start by our bowlers, there were far too many four balls served up, but we picked up enough early wickets for that not to matter.
I'd like to know why John Bracewell can't see what the entire population of the world can: James Franklin is not an ODI player. He is a proven failure in this form of the game, and has not shown any kind of improvement in the last year. He didn't even have good figures in County cricket OD games this season.
Really glad Bond bowled well in his second spell there. He looks like he's trying too hard with the new ball at the moment, it would be better if he relaxes a bit and just sticks the ball in the right area and looks for swing. He bowled a bit better in his first spell than his figures suggest, with a few boundaries coming off edges, but he was still too inconsistent.
Turning point of the game for mine was Yousuf's wicket. Pakistan were cruising up to that point.
I'd like to know why John Bracewell can't see what the entire population of the world can: James Franklin is not an ODI player. He is a proven failure in this form of the game, and has not shown any kind of improvement in the last year. He didn't even have good figures in County cricket OD games this season.
Really glad Bond bowled well in his second spell there. He looks like he's trying too hard with the new ball at the moment, it would be better if he relaxes a bit and just sticks the ball in the right area and looks for swing. He bowled a bit better in his first spell than his figures suggest, with a few boundaries coming off edges, but he was still too inconsistent.
Turning point of the game for mine was Yousuf's wicket. Pakistan were cruising up to that point.
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Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Wow, I've been kind of underestimating these Kiwis...man they are pretty darn good.
I am quite impressed and in fact if India goes out of the CT, I am rooting for NewZealand.
I am quite impressed and in fact if India goes out of the CT, I am rooting for NewZealand.
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Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just seen the highlights of the NZ vs Pakistan game that was played tonight and thought I would make a few comments.
Fleming once again led from the front after some early wickets, he looked very careful facing the new ball and showed great responsibility. Vincent and Astle both played poor shots while Fulton look uncomfortable from the start.Styris played another great knock and looked in real pain at the end when Vincent had to come out and be his runner, showed great guts to play through the pain barrier. Oram and McCullum both played good cameo's at the end but really need to turn those innings into half centuries that realy take the game away from the opposition.
Hafeez looked pretty good early on but couldn't turn it into a half century which was a shame,Yousuf was all class in that inings, showed what a beautiful world class batsman he is. Afridi should be dropped until he get's his attitude and batting right right. I know he is an attacking player and will always be someone who goes out to try and clear the ropes but he needs to learn some responsibility and leadership. He is the most experienced ODI player in the Pakistan team yet shows nothing to suggest that and is in a very long form slump. Oram bowled pretty well I thought and Bond got some vital wickets.
When Pakistan were in the field it was pretty poor to be honest, they have a very poor fielding outfit and generally appear pretty lazy and casual about the whole thing. Also when Oram and McCullum tried to take the game away from the Pakistani's they were helped by how easily the fielders and bowlers got flustered. Pakistan are really struggling for leaders on the field and need to look at some of the more experienced guys to put their hand up. Something they are lacking big time.
Fleming once again led from the front after some early wickets, he looked very careful facing the new ball and showed great responsibility. Vincent and Astle both played poor shots while Fulton look uncomfortable from the start.Styris played another great knock and looked in real pain at the end when Vincent had to come out and be his runner, showed great guts to play through the pain barrier. Oram and McCullum both played good cameo's at the end but really need to turn those innings into half centuries that realy take the game away from the opposition.
Hafeez looked pretty good early on but couldn't turn it into a half century which was a shame,Yousuf was all class in that inings, showed what a beautiful world class batsman he is. Afridi should be dropped until he get's his attitude and batting right right. I know he is an attacking player and will always be someone who goes out to try and clear the ropes but he needs to learn some responsibility and leadership. He is the most experienced ODI player in the Pakistan team yet shows nothing to suggest that and is in a very long form slump. Oram bowled pretty well I thought and Bond got some vital wickets.
When Pakistan were in the field it was pretty poor to be honest, they have a very poor fielding outfit and generally appear pretty lazy and casual about the whole thing. Also when Oram and McCullum tried to take the game away from the Pakistani's they were helped by how easily the fielders and bowlers got flustered. Pakistan are really struggling for leaders on the field and need to look at some of the more experienced guys to put their hand up. Something they are lacking big time.
winneer123
Cricket Spectator
sl chace of going is over now
i think sri lanka should have lost the match against wi
i think sri lanka should have lost the match against wi
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Great stuff Black Caps. Really pleased with our performance bar Vincent (
), Astle, Fulton and Franklin.
Good way for Flemo to break the ODI maatch-captaincy record, too!
), Astle, Fulton and Franklin.Good way for Flemo to break the ODI maatch-captaincy record, too!
Bahnz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Franklin should never have been playing. He's a dreadful one day bowler. Pity we had to win, or we might of used the oppurtunity to experiment with Gillespie. Still it was a good performance overall. Vincent, Astle and at least one middle order batsman need to score more runs though.
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I couldn't agree more about Franklin, he is a very good test bowler but his type of bowling isn't really suited to one dayers at the moment. When he gets more experienced with limited overs stuff then maybe he will get the ball in the right area alot more often and we won't see him being dispatched to the boundary all the time. Because one he get's hit a couple of times his confidence goes down pretty quick.
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Jaipur is a more spin-friendly pitch so I'd imagine that Jeetan Patel will come back in for Franklin. Vincent isn't doing the job at the top of the order at the moment, what does everyone think they should do? I think they should promote Astle to open, and I'd love to see Ross Taylor come in but if there is a change I'd guess it would be Marshall.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Macka said:
Yeah, he has definately. Just needs to mellow out a bit though, and smarten up with his shot selection.
Probably needs to do more innings like the one he did for his last century. It was quick then he slowed down a bit, and was there at the end IIRC?
Oh, and NZ should take a lot of positives out of this tournament. Apart from the Sri lankan match, we've shown we can do well bowling second. Hopefully we'll abandon our 'bat second' mentality if we win the toss.
Natman20
International Debutant
I just can't believe all the comments in most of the proffesional articles naming New Zealand as the big underdogs in every match. I see no reason for this because IMO New Zealand has proven themselves in the last few years to be real contenders. I am pleased with Mills, Fleming, Styris and Patel from the matches they have played also Oram bowling all-right in these conditions (certainly looks more threatning in India than NZ conditions IMO). I would like to say that New Zealand should make it to the final but their I think that to win a couple in a trott is a hard ask for our team. Will have to see how it pans out and who they will be playing against. Does anyone agree with me about Oram?
Bahnz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
New Zealand is always under rated because, with the exceptions of Bond and Fleming, we don't have too many players who would make it into other top teams. Everyone looks at our top order, with our batsmen who all average in the 20's, and our bowlers who average in the high 20 - low 30's, and think we're a push over. And I for one am glad that we're always tagged as the dark horse, because for some reason we always play at our best when people think that of us. Strangely, whenever we became favourites we get flattened.
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Averaging 29 with the ball at the moment. 3rd best bowling average in the team so he's doing something alright.Natman20 said:
Sir Redman
State Vice-Captain
Yeah, he bowled really well. Still not sure about his ability to handle pressure though when someone goes after him. And as I've said about 50 times in the last week he shouldn't be batting at 6 in ODIs - 8 seems about right to me. He can always move up the order if we need someone to bash it.Natman20 said:
I reckon Patel should definately be playing the next match. I was really surprised that he was left out last game after the way he's been bowling. The problem with playing Patel is that it weakens our batting line-up and means that we pretty much have to play Oram at six. Otherwise we'll be relying on 10 overs from Styris, who's back and everything else is playing up, or Astle, who can be useful in short spells but shouldn't be bowling 10.