subshakerz
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It shows how bad Australia in the mid 80s were that they lost to England at home, the same England side that were beaten at home by India, NZ, WI and Pakistan.
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Glenn McGrath vs Richard Hadlee
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subshakerz
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The sides they were beating in the early 80s though were strong.
The W/Loss delineates the dominance the Windies had on every other team as well, better by at least 3.5 times than the second best and more than 4 when compared to others, perhaps are also the major reason why most teams had such a bad ratio making them look so bad.
Calm_profit
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Marshall definitely would have gotten 400 wickets if he played against Srilanka.
Migara
International Coach
Luckily he didn't. Otherwise the CWers will use it against him saying "he piled up against minnows . . . " crap.
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Burgey
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Yeah they were woeful. Arguably the most embarrassing Aus side ever til the current team lost at home to India.
Burgey
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He also played in a country with better decks for seam bowling, in a more bowler friendly era. The factors probably cancel each other out.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Lol.
McGrath 1.82 top order wickets per match
Hadlee 1.84
Mcgrath 0.93 top order wickets per innings
Hadlee 1.05
Aritro
International Regular
He might have meant no one else got exactly 1.82 top order wickets per match or 0.93 top order wickets per innings. A very specific metric for greatness, admittedly.
a massive zebra
International Captain
I voted for Hadlee in this poll, but to be fair you are more likely to take top order wickets if your colleagues are not taking them.
Gillespie+Warne+Lee/MacGill is a better attack than any Hadlee would have played with.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Lillee 1.83 wpm, 0.97 wpi
McGrath is not even the best top order wicket taker for his country.. Let alone unparalleled in the history.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
I want him to say percentage is the accurate metric.. So that i can claim
Kapil Dev > Mcgrath .
Migara
International Coach
Lillie averages 35 against SL.
hack even couldn't get minnows out when the track is not green.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Wrong again.
4 to 7 wickets
Mcgrath 1.57 wpm, Hadlee 1.67 wpm
Mcgrath 0.8 wpi, Hadlee 0.96 wpi
TheJediBrah
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Talking about percentage of total wickets
Your stats of wpm/wpi are stupidly pointless, even for you. Of course Hadlee's will be higher he didn't have the competition for wickets that McGrath had.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
McGrath was the most intelligent bowler I ever saw bowl, including Warne. Wonder if on a pure bowling intelligence level, Marshall and Hadlee are his equal. The reason I rank Marshall higher is for his other skills and talents.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Percentage wise,
Kapil Dev was better top order wicket taker than Mcgrath. And he was bowling in lifeless tracks without any support.
Zaheer's top order ratio is 45%.. Far better than Mcgrath's 40%. Zaheer had huge competition from spinners for wickets.
If anything is pointless.. It is the percentage argument.
ataraxia
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you said rate tho
TheJediBrah
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lol wut
now you're comparing bowlers that average nearly 10 runs more per wicket. I swear you are the king of making up irrelevant stats that have nothing to do with a discussion