sayon basak
International Captain
Kohli is still definitely ahead.
Just look at his attitude. He's definitely better.
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Gary Sobers vs Steven Smith
- Thread starter DrWolverine
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Just look at his attitude. He's definitely better.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Yeah great behavior on the field
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
His weaknesses are unique too. But he is up there and didn't deserve the slide he has had on CW.
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Is there any weakness in Smith’s record so far?
In my opinion, no.
1. Gary Sobers averaged 23 against NZ in 12 Tests. Brian Lara averaged 34 against Ind in 17 Tests.
Steven Smith averages 45+ against every country he has played.
2. Gary Sobers played 38 out of 93 Tests against Ind/Pak/NZ, the weak teams of his era.
Steven Smith played 16 out of 113 Tests against SL/WI/Bang.
3. Sachin Tendulkar has arguably the perfect record in Test cricket but he never had a huge series. Though one can say he played a 5 Test series just 2 or 3 times.
Smith scored 750+ runs in a series twice. One against England in 8 innings and One against India in 7 innings.
In my opinion, no.
1. Gary Sobers averaged 23 against NZ in 12 Tests. Brian Lara averaged 34 against Ind in 17 Tests.
Steven Smith averages 45+ against every country he has played.
2. Gary Sobers played 38 out of 93 Tests against Ind/Pak/NZ, the weak teams of his era.
Steven Smith played 16 out of 113 Tests against SL/WI/Bang.
3. Sachin Tendulkar has arguably the perfect record in Test cricket but he never had a huge series. Though one can say he played a 5 Test series just 2 or 3 times.
Smith scored 750+ runs in a series twice. One against England in 8 innings and One against India in 7 innings.
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ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What is his weakness? I can't see any.
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
His peak was incredibly padded which inflated his record. Also can't ignore his dip coincided with improving pace bowling globally so will be used against him.
Having said that, incredibly consistent cross countries and competition and ATG peak series under his belt.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
People forget how flat Smith’s home pitches used to be
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Tbf WI wasn't particularly well known for fierce tracks as well
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Even during his peak(2014-2019) he was easily the best and ahead of the rest.
Away conditions(2014-2019)
In Australia(2014-2019)
Away conditions(2014-2019)
In Australia(2014-2019)
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You are looking too hard for holes. You can do that with any batsman.
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Huge gap between home and away, like Imran.
Johan
International Regular
the constant urge in his old age to try to smack a bowling coming in to the leg side but missing and getting LBWed
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
If a batsman is doing 67 away, it's like saying Don was a minnow basher since he averages 89 vs England which is 10 runs lower.
kyear2
International Coach
That's literally one above me.
Based on your vote you have him above Sobers so I'm guessing just below Bradman, Tendulkar and Hobbs?
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Smith(2014-2019)
Home : 26 Tests. 2917 runs @ 83. 12 tons.
Away : 28 Tests. 3103 runs @ 66. 12 tons.
I do not think there is a vast difference between his home and away record during his peak and his away record is significantly much better than his peers.
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He does walk across quite a bit, agree. Allows him to loft many pacers like he did today morning but leaves leg stump exposed
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
They are minor in the grand scheme I agree. I have always tried to argue he is top tier.
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I voted for Smith for justice. It's hard to rate anyone from last 50 years above Smith (unless you combine formats or interpret greatness broadly). Hobbs and Sobers I could because there are only tales and grainy footage to go by so you can extend benefit of doubt. I could go anywhere between 2nd and 5th for Smith.
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
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