Garry Sobers vs Imran Khan

[sayon basak]

Yeah I actually many days think Tendulkar edges Imran as 3rd greatest cricket of all-time, tho on points it should be Imran.

Ok makes sense.

 

[sayon basak]

No, top 10.

Really? I thought this list overall summarized the general consensus of people outside CW.

BBC - The Greatest Cricketer of All Time – your votes revealed!

You voted for your favourite from a list 30 all-time greatest cricketers.

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Absolutely terrible list, but you get the point.

 

[Thala_0710]

Really? I thought this list overall summarized the general consensus of people outside CW.

BBC - The Greatest Cricketer of All Time – your votes revealed!

You voted for your favourite from a list 30 all-time greatest cricketers.

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Absolutely terrible list, but you get the point.

The Dhoni vote I understand because of his crazy fan following here in India. But didn't know Akhtar and Jayawardene had fans like that to put him over Steyn.
Also Anderson over Murali wow. The bias isn't even consistent

 

[subshakerz]

Really? I thought this list overall summarized the general consensus of people outside CW.

BBC - The Greatest Cricketer of All Time – your votes revealed!

You voted for your favourite from a list 30 all-time greatest cricketers.

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Absolutely terrible list, but you get the point.

General opinion polling perhaps.

There was the ESPN list where he is 8 and the Wisden list where he is 10. And I have seen many pundits put him in top 5 but mostly top 10.

Mind you, I actually think that's pretty good, it's just a mild underrating.

Whereas Malcom Marshall makes hardly any top 10 list I have seen.

 

[sayon basak]

The Dhoni vote I understand because of his crazy fan following here in India. But didn't know Akhtar and Jayawardene had fans like that to put him over Steyn

Actually what I think is, they voted for the players that are famous (Jayawardene and Akhtar are enough well-known) and those who were in discussion at that time (re: Cook)

 

[Thala_0710]

Actually what I think is, they voted for the players that are famous (Jayawardene and Akhtar are enough well-known) and those who were in discussion at that time (re: Cook)

Makes sense

 

[sayon basak]

Whereas Malcom Marshall makes hardly any top 10 list I have seen.

That's actually understandable for general people, but not for actual cricket writers.
This one might be the best example for that. Marshall at 69 (nice).

John Woodcock's 100 greatest cricketers (07 Jul 1997)

John Woodcock, former editor of Wisden and senior cricket correspondent of the Times recently contributed a series of articles to the Times magazine giving hos personal choice of 100 great cricketers

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[sayon basak]

Makes sense

Yeah, I'm certain Rohit Sharma would crack into the top 20 if it were done months ago instead of in 2019 (iirc).

 

[smash84]

That's actually understandable for general people, but not for actual cricket writers.
This one might be the best example for that. Marshall at 69 (nice).

John Woodcock's 100 greatest cricketers (07 Jul 1997)

John Woodcock, former editor of Wisden and senior cricket correspondent of the Times recently contributed a series of articles to the Times magazine giving hos personal choice of 100 great cricketers

www.espncricinfo.com

This guy has Grace over even Bradman.

 

[Thala_0710]

That's actually understandable for general people, but not for actual cricket writers.
This one might be the best example for that. Marshall at 69 (nice).

John Woodcock's 100 greatest cricketers (07 Jul 1997)

John Woodcock, former editor of Wisden and senior cricket correspondent of the Times recently contributed a series of articles to the Times magazine giving hos personal choice of 100 great cricketers

www.espncricinfo.com

Isn't this the guy with the Sachin over Bradman quote, "Gentlemen, he (Sachin) is the best batsman I have ever seen in my life, and unlike most of you, I have seen Bradman bat."

 

[sayon basak]

This guy has Grace over even Bradman.

Top 4 for me, don't know what his thought was behind putting him above Bradman.

Here's a interesting piece of note that I found regarding Trumper vs Bradman.

"Interestingly, the vast majority of cricketers blessed with the good fortune to watch both considered Trumper the more accomplished. To the best of my knowledge, 18 of Victor’s peers offered a verdict – Monty Noble, Clem Hill, Hanson Carter, Vernon Ransford, Charlie Macartney, James Kelly, Warwick Armstrong, Joe Darling, Hugh Trumble, Jack Ryder, Herbie Collins, Hunter Hendry, Arthur Mailey, Len Braund, Wilfred Rhodes, Francis Jackson, Percy Perrin and Kumar Ranjitsinhji – and of this group only one considered Don Bradman superior (Rhodes)".

 

[smash84]

Isn't this the guy with the Sachin over Bradman quote, "Gentlemen, he (Sachin) is the best batsman I have ever seen in my life, and unlike most of you, I have seen Bradman bat."

He has Shane Warne over Dennis Lillee when Shane Warne was less than 5 years into his career

 

[smash84]

Top 4 for me, don't know what his thought was behind putting him above Bradman.

Here's a interesting piece of note that I found regarding Trumper vs Bradman.

"Interestingly, the vast majority of cricketers blessed with the good fortune to watch both considered Trumper the more accomplished. To the best of my knowledge, 18 of Victor’s peers offered a verdict – Monty Noble, Clem Hill, Hanson Carter, Vernon Ransford, Charlie Macartney, James Kelly, Warwick Armstrong, Joe Darling, Hugh Trumble, Jack Ryder, Herbie Collins, Hunter Hendry, Arthur Mailey, Len Braund, Wilfred Rhodes, Francis Jackson, Percy Perrin and Kumar Ranjitsinhji – and of this group only one considered Don Bradman superior (Rhodes)".

I wonder how many of these 18 voted bradman at the beginning of his career?

 

[Thala_0710]

He has Shane Warne over Dennis Lillee when Shane Warne was less than 5 years into his career

All that says to me that he has a good eye for talent (or is just maybe plain biased idk)

 

[sayon basak]

Isn't this the guy with the Sachin over Bradman quote, "Gentlemen, he (Sachin) is the best batsman I have ever seen in my life, and unlike most of you, I have seen Bradman bat."

Found this in Twitter.

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[smash84]

All that says to me that he has a good eye for talent (or is just maybe plain biased idk)

It tells me more that he has no brain

 

[Thala_0710]

Found this in Twitter.

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Yeah that's the one

 

[capt_Luffy]

I wonder how many of these 18 voted bradman at the beginning of his career?

I know some of Don's contemporaries and even juniors maintained Trumper's superiority, mainly Lindsay Hassett comes to mind. And it's funnier because Trumper died before Don was even born and Hassett was significantly younger.......

 

[DrWolverine]

Malcolm Marshall is the automatic pick as the first choice fast bowler and yet his name barely comes up when the names of greatest cricketers are mentioned

 

[DrWolverine]

Don Bradman is the greatest cricketer of all time. That is the only thing that is objectively a fact.

Sobers. Kallis. Marshall. Hadlee. Imran. Sachin. Murali. Mcgrath. All of them have a decent argument to be called second greatest cricketer ever.

There may be some names I may have missed because they are less hyped or may have played much in the earlier eras so may have got forgotten