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Try telling that to Justin Langer.Langeveldt said:no, if the ball bounces to about your chest/stomach, its a long hop even if its coming at 100mph.. bouncer is neck region or above
Try telling that to Justin Langer.Langeveldt said:no, if the ball bounces to about your chest/stomach, its a long hop even if its coming at 100mph.. bouncer is neck region or above
I doubt anyone would really call a ball travelling at 100mph towards your chest a long hopLangeveldt said:no, if the ball bounces to about your chest/stomach, its a long hop even if its coming at 100mph.. bouncer is neck region or above
really?, i've never heard him say that, according to my pops who has saw Holding thinks he was just as fast as Lee or Shoaib if not faster..Xuhaib said:Holding constantly says that Lee and Akhtar are faster then he was.
Stomach yes, but I don't want a 90mph ball coming at my chest.Langeveldt said:no, if the ball bounces to about your chest/stomach, its a long hop even if its coming at 100mph.. bouncer is neck region or above
Out of interest what was Waqar's fastest speed/s?C_C said:It will forever be undecieded.
From what i know, the fastest bowler ever(as in consistently fast) would be one of :
Waqar Younis ( before back injury)
Shoaib Akhtar
Michael Holding
Jeff Thompson
Frank Tyson
Patrick Patterson
Roy Gillchrist.
Tommo was only at 145kph , holding was at 142 or something, and i think only 1 more got into the 140s. The rest were in the 130s.iamdavid said:There was a little segment on the cricket show earlier this summer about a speed contest they had back in the 1970's in the nets at Perth, they got the fastest 7 or 8 bowlers of that era n lined em up in front of a speed gun for an over each I think it was.
I dont know how reliable the speedo was but I remember Thompson won it but his fastest delivery was only recorded in the high 140's ...and noboddy else was really close to him.
It seems pretty unreliable given that it wasnt a match situation and they werent given a whole lot of deliveries...but still...That would imply that if that was anywhere near accurate then Lee...Shoaib...Donald...Bond were at their respective peaks significantly quicker than the fastest of yesteryear.
Nah Holding managed to get some terrorifying lift and pace which probably made him appear him quicker then he probably was. (remember that Holding to boycott over on that Bridgetown green-top).UncleTheOne said:I think it was Geoff Boycott who says he is convinced that at his peak Holding was bowling at around 100mph. Then again Boycott does talk a lot of nonsense.
Actually I'd say the guys from yesteryear were never properly timed.Arrow said:Tommo was only at 145kph , holding was at 142 or something, and i think only 1 more got into the 140s. The rest were in the 130s.
The guys from yesteryear seem to be overrated.
Well. Some of them were but the timing techniques AND what was being measured (the definition of speed) were different.marc71178 said:Actually I'd say the guys from yesteryear were never properly timed.
Exactly!SJS said:Well. Some of them were but the timing techniques AND what was being measured (the definition of speed) were different.
They were timed at the average speed (from the time it left the hand till it passed the stumps) over 22 yards. Today the speeds that are shown are the speeds at the time release. We are also shown today how much is the drop in speeds along the way, in particular after pitching. So those who talk of the speed of Thomson and Imran who were amongst those timed then need to be reminded of this.
The average speed is HUGELY different from the speed at release.
Shoaib and Lee CANT touch 150 on average speed !!
C_C? Is that you?Arrow said:.
The guys from yesteryear seem to be overrated.
The fastest ever are Ahkter and Lee.
Actually, beyond the critical speed (which I think is around 145 for a cricket ball, varying a little based on the ball's condition) the drag on the ball reduces drastically and speed of the ball doesnt reduce much across the length of the pitch ((just 5% or so). So the average speed would be practically same as the release speed for express bowlers like Shoaib and Lee.SJS said:Well. Some of them were but the timing techniques AND what was being measured (the definition of speed) were different.
They were timed at the average speed (from the time it left the hand till it passed the stumps) over 22 yards. Today the speeds that are shown are the speeds at the time release. We are also shown today how much is the drop in speeds along the way, in particular after pitching. So those who talk of the speed of Thomson and Imran who were amongst those timed then need to be reminded of this.
The average speed is HUGELY different from the speed at release.
Shoaib and Lee CANT touch 150 on average speed !!
If you believe technology, it's well over 20%.shankar said:Actually, beyond the critical speed (which I think is around 145 for a cricket ball, varying a little based on the ball's condition) the drag on the ball reduces drastically and speed of the ball doesnt reduce much across the length of the pitch ((just 5% or so). So the average speed would be practically same as the release speed for express bowlers like Shoaib and Lee.
One can argue about the lack of logic in what you say but it isnt required.shankar said:Actually, beyond the critical speed (which I think is around 145 for a cricket ball, varying a little based on the ball's condition) the drag on the ball reduces drastically and speed of the ball doesnt reduce much across the length of the pitch ((just 5% or so). So the average speed would be practically same as the release speed for express bowlers like Shoaib and Lee.
Recently, Shoaib hasn't been bowling that many deliveries that have lost pace when they hit the ground either.shankar said:Of course this does not apply to the speed loss when the ball hits the ground. Now as I recall Shoiab in the recent series didnt bowl too many deliveries which started out at over 150 kmph