Everton Weekes vs AB De Villiers

[Johan]

better test batsmen?

 

[Johan]

some reasonings would be cool

 

[DrWolverine]

Everton Weekes’ away record is quite poor

 

[Johan]

Everton Weekes’ away record is quite poor

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like Denis Compton, Weekes had bad luck with injuries, he only got 3 tours to Australia/England, in first England tour he averaged 50+ and made 200s against Bedser and Shacketon, he went to Australia with two injuries and his final England tour came when he was facing sinusitis and had five surgeries during the tour itself.

 

[Coronis]

like Denis Compton, Weekes had bad luck with injuries, he only got 3 tours to Australia/England, in first England tour he averaged 50+ and made 200s against Bedser and Shacketon, he went to Australia with two injuries and his final England tour came when he was facing sinusitis and had five surgeries during the tour itself.

I wouldn’t play cricket very well either if I couldn’t smell the willow and leather tbh.

 

[Johan]

I wouldn’t play cricket very well either if I couldn’t smell the willow and leather tbh.

tbh I don't know why cricketers insist to play with health issues, forget sinusitis, I can have a broken toe nail and I'd intentionally play **** to get a whole tour off

 

[Srinath P]

like Denis Compton, Weekes had bad luck with injuries, he only got 3 tours to Australia/England, in first England tour he averaged 50+ and made 200s against Bedser and Shacketon, he went to Australia with two injuries and his final England tour came when he was facing sinusitis and had five surgeries during the tour itself.

What are his numbers in his other tours?

 

[Coronis]

tbh I don't know why cricketers insist to play with health issues, forget sinusitis, I can have a broken toe nail and I'd intentionally play **** to get a whole tour off

There’s a reason you’re not a sportsperson.

 

[Johan]

What are his numbers in his other tours?

for who?

for Denis, he only played one series with an injury in 1950-51 and it was the worst series he ever had anywhere (by far), without that he averages 46.4 in Australia over 9 tests, finding success in both test and the first class arena.

Weekes only had one England/Australia series without injury, it came in 1950, he made 338 @ 56.3 with one ton and three fifties. He was monsterous in first class, obliterating a very powerful Surrey attack as well as Shackleton, people say it was one of the most impressive tours anyone had in England in a while.

 

[Srinath P]

for who?

for Denis, he only played one series with an injury in 1950-51 and it was the worst series he ever had anywhere (by far), without that he averages 46.4 in Australia over 9 tests, finding success in both test and the first class arena.

Weekes only had one England/Australia series without injury, it came in 1950, he made 338 @ 56.3 with one ton and three fifties. He was monsterous in first class, obliterating a very powerful Surrey attack as well as Shackleton, people say it was one of the most impressive tours anyone had in England in a while.

Hmm so Weekes gets a big buff and Compton also saves his pride.

Reminds me of Anderson's numbers after you remove the 2013 Ashes which he played with a broken rib. His numbers in Australia look so much better if we remove that series.

 

[Srinath P]

I think Warne also played a lot of cricket in India when his shoulder wasn't at a 100%. Had a decent 2004 tour after that.

 

[Johan]

Hmm so Weekes gets a big buff and Compton also saves his pride.

Reminds me of Anderson's numbers after you remove the 2013 Ashes which he played with a broken rib. His numbers in Australia look so much better if we remove that series.

Yeah both individual's away record is pretty tough/rough on their ability, some of the stuff is something you gotta have to research yourself to know.

 

[Johan]

@sayon basak Explain

 

[sayon basak]

@sayon basak Explain

De Villiers WAG.

 

[Coronis]

for who?

for Denis, he only played one series with an injury in 1950-51 and it was the worst series he ever had anywhere (by far), without that he averages 46.4 in Australia over 9 tests, finding success in both test and the first class arena.

Weekes only had one England/Australia series without injury, it came in 1950, he made 338 @ 56.3 with one ton and three fifties. He was monsterous in first class, obliterating a very powerful Surrey attack as well as Shackleton, people say it was one of the most impressive tours anyone had in England in a while.

Heavily heavily influenced by a single test tbf. I could also just say without his one good test in Australia he averages 22.65 over 12 matches lol

 

[Johan]

Heavily heavily influenced by a single test tbf. I could also just say without his one good test in Australia he averages 22.65 over 12 matches lol

?

what would the reasoning behind removing that test match with twin tons be? I checked the match and there's both Miller and Lindwall there, I reckon you can also microdissect and remove that one good test and then that one bad test in the 1954-55 series where he sustained an injury during the match, get it down to 7 matches, but It's better to take the 46-47 series and the 54-55 series fully because he walked into every test those serieses at 100% as far as I know.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Very close

 

[Johan]

did some research on Everton's numbers, it was fairly common knowledge to me and others that he played in Australia while carrying multiple injuries and his second series in England while facing serious health issues, I decided to knock out those two serieses from his overall numbers.

38 matches, 61 innings, 4,015 runs @ 71.7 with 15 tons and 65.8 runs per inning. Proof

now a lot of this is based on weak team bashing, but his numbers against England and Australia when healthy.

17 matches, 30 innings, 1,587 runs @ 58.77 with 4 tons and 9 fifties and 52.9 runs per inning. Proof

Sadly, he never played in Australia at full health, but he played one series in England while healthy

4 matches, 6 innings, 338 runs @ 56.33 with 1 ton and 3 fifties and 56.33 runs per inning. with 2310 runs @ 79.65 on the trip including first class. Proof Proof

Nice stats, wonder what we'd get if his health issues/injuries never impacted his numbers. All I can really say on these numbers are...



I guess his biggest issues might be being outperformed by someone in a lot of his great serieses, Hutton (GOATed) and Walcott (having a GOAT peak) in 54 England series or Harvey/Walcott or Walcott in the Australia series (won't count Australian batters as they were facing infinitely inferior bowlers) or Worrell in 1950 England.

Might interest you @BazBall21, @kyear2 @DrWolverine @shortpitched713 @sayon basak

 

[shortpitched713]

Thanks, he was a real monster of a player.

 

[kyear2]

did some research on Everton's numbers, it was fairly common knowledge to me and others that he played in Australia while carrying multiple injuries and his second series in England while facing serious health issues, I decided to knock out those two serieses from his overall numbers.

38 matches, 61 innings, 4,015 runs @ 71.7 with 15 tons and 65.8 runs per inning. Proof

now a lot of this is based on weak team bashing, but his numbers against England and Australia when healthy.

17 matches, 30 innings, 1,587 runs @ 58.77 with 4 tons and 9 fifties and 52.9 runs per inning. Proof

Sadly, he never played in Australia at full health, but he played one series in England while healthy

4 matches, 6 innings, 338 runs @ 56.33 with 1 ton and 3 fifties and 56.33 runs per inning. with 2310 runs @ 79.65 on the trip including first class. Proof Proof

Nice stats, wonder what we'd get if his health issues/injuries never impacted his numbers. All I can really say on these numbers are...

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I guess his biggest issues might be being outperformed by someone in a lot of his great serieses, Hutton (GOATed) and Walcott (having a GOAT peak) in 54 England series or Harvey/Walcott or Walcott in the Australia series (won't count Australian batters as they were facing infinitely inferior bowlers) or Worrell in 1950 England.

Might interest you @BazBall21, @kyear2 @DrWolverine @shortpitched713 @sayon basak

I believe it was Bradman who rated Weekes above even Headley.

He was an exceptional batsman who didn't get to show his absolute best.

I don't have him as an ATG but not that far outside.

He was, from all reports, an exceptional slip as well.