Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Olly Stone a real dark horse for me. If he can actually stay fit then he should be in the XI.
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England players and selection discussion thread
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chris.hinton
International Captain
Agreed. Better then Wood IMO
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
For the 1st test I'd go Sibley, Crawley, Root, Lawrence, Buttler, Foakes, Woakes, Bess, Leach, Anderson, Stone
Think Root is a good 5th bowler option in these conditions, but the worry is that if Bess/Leach are having an off day, he'll have to turn into a frontline bowler. It's a high-risk strategy going in with 5 bowlers and could easily backfire if the top 6 don't get runs, but so be it. Onus on the batsman to get in and bat long periods. It's rare that your scoring quickly in SL so the likes of Sibley, and to a lesser extent Foakes, are key to acculumating big scores
Think Root is a good 5th bowler option in these conditions, but the worry is that if Bess/Leach are having an off day, he'll have to turn into a frontline bowler. It's a high-risk strategy going in with 5 bowlers and could easily backfire if the top 6 don't get runs, but so be it. Onus on the batsman to get in and bat long periods. It's rare that your scoring quickly in SL so the likes of Sibley, and to a lesser extent Foakes, are key to acculumating big scores
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
It'll be a tough team to pick.
No stokes screws the balance a bit. He'd have been an ideal 3rd seamer.
Would be nice if Ali could bat in the top 6 and be one of the bowlers as he has did with some success in India, but that seems a long time ago.
Broad, Anderson and SCurran played a combined 5 tests last tour in Sri Lanka and took 2 wickets. Woakes too with the poor bowling record away from home. I feel Broad, Anderson and Woakes very similar in these conditions, and really should only pick one of them, or maybe two if you require the batting of Woakes (although in that case you are maybe better not playing both Broad and Anderson).
I've been very impressed by Sam Curran's batting vs spin ever since that first series (sorry second; he debuted vs Pakistan) vs India and the way he played Ashwin but I don't see him as good enough to bat 6 or 7 unfortunately. He just doesn't have that batter's temperament to construct a proper innings and bat long periods - as shown by his 0 first class hundreds. Which probably means he doesn't make the side because I don't think his bowling offers enough.
Root, Buttler and Crawley 3 I reckon nailed onto play. I did have Sibley in that list but his batting vs spin has been very limited to this point and makes him vulnerable even if his test record so far should justify a prolonged opportunity.
www.standard.co.uk
Ed Smith gave his thoughts when the squad announced. Sounds like Foakes might be running the drinks until India, where Buttler may be rested at some point.
No stokes screws the balance a bit. He'd have been an ideal 3rd seamer.
Would be nice if Ali could bat in the top 6 and be one of the bowlers as he has did with some success in India, but that seems a long time ago.
Broad, Anderson and SCurran played a combined 5 tests last tour in Sri Lanka and took 2 wickets. Woakes too with the poor bowling record away from home. I feel Broad, Anderson and Woakes very similar in these conditions, and really should only pick one of them, or maybe two if you require the batting of Woakes (although in that case you are maybe better not playing both Broad and Anderson).
I've been very impressed by Sam Curran's batting vs spin ever since that first series (sorry second; he debuted vs Pakistan) vs India and the way he played Ashwin but I don't see him as good enough to bat 6 or 7 unfortunately. He just doesn't have that batter's temperament to construct a proper innings and bat long periods - as shown by his 0 first class hundreds. Which probably means he doesn't make the side because I don't think his bowling offers enough.
Root, Buttler and Crawley 3 I reckon nailed onto play. I did have Sibley in that list but his batting vs spin has been very limited to this point and makes him vulnerable even if his test record so far should justify a prolonged opportunity.
Smith expects Buttler to continue as England keeper ahead of Foakes
National Selector Ed Smith expects Jos Buttler to keep the wicketkeeping gloves ahead of Ben Foakes on England’s upcoming tour of Sri Lanka, while another gloveman, Jonny Bairstow, has been selected as a specialist batsman.
www.standard.co.uk
Ed Smith gave his thoughts when the squad announced. Sounds like Foakes might be running the drinks until India, where Buttler may be rested at some point.
PavlovsDog
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I don’t see how Sibley is vulnerable for selection at this point - there are simply too few batting options to leave him out. Obviously if he struggles here, there may be changes for India.
They played 3 spinners last time in Sri Lanka so I expect that again. Something like:
Sibley
Crawley
Bairstow
Root
Lawrence
Buttler
Moeen
Bess
Broad/Anderson
Wood
Leach
As theegyptian says though no Stokes makes it a lot more difficult, feel you are kind of one player short whatever you do, you would really want to add Curran or Woakes to that team. I can't see Broad and Anderson making the trip and not playing at least a game each though.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I would put Curran for Bess in there, and yes make do with Root, Curran gives you a bit of variety and he's capable of almost bowling cutters which may give us something.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
I guess other than Stokes the key difference last time was we had Rashid so the 3 spinners all brought variety. I'm not sure having Moeen + Bess (+Root) adds enough.
I can also see Root thinking along the lines that Woakes + Curran = Stokes and playing something like:
Sibley
Crawley
Bairstow
Root
Lawrence
Buttler
Woakes
Curran
Bess
Broad/Anderson
Leach
I can also see Root thinking along the lines that Woakes + Curran = Stokes and playing something like:
Sibley
Crawley
Bairstow
Root
Lawrence
Buttler
Woakes
Curran
Bess
Broad/Anderson
Leach
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Kallis appointed batting coach. Foster as wicketkeeping coach.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Who is the 12th man coach? And the coach's coach?
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Totally over the top here HB. There's Kallis as batting coach, Jon Lewis as bowling coach, Jeetan Patel as spin bowling coach, Paul Collingwood as fielding coach, James Foster as wicketkeeping coach, Chris Silverwood as, err, coach, and Graham Thorpe as assistant coach (except he's not featuring in Sri Lanka due to the squad rotation policy amongst the coaching staff). Maybe someone to drive the coach. But no 12th man coach yet.
the big bambino
International Captain
Rashid played very well last time in SL. Has he given up test cricket or were there other reasons why he wasn't selected?
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Pretty much the former. With his dodgy shoulder I think he's decided to concentrate on the white ball stuff, but I don't think there's ever been an official announcement.
Partly, I suspect, because Ed wants him to change his mind.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Not formally given up to my knowledge but has a long standing shoulder injury which pretty much restricts him to playing the shorter formats now.
Edit: yeah what BoyBrumby said.
England First
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
So from the players available for Sri lanka
1.Dominic Sibley
2. Zak Crawley
3. Joe Root he’s the perfect number 3 really. He can attack and defend when needed. I have no idea why he doesn’t play there.
4. Jonny bairstow
5. Stone or Lawrence
6. Chris Woakes
7. Josh Butler WK shouldn’t be messed around with again just keep him as the WK
8. Dominic Bess would prefer Abdul rashid but not going to happen
9. Sam Curran
10. Stuart broad
11. James Anderson rotate with wood
12th man mark wood
1.Dominic Sibley
2. Zak Crawley
3. Joe Root he’s the perfect number 3 really. He can attack and defend when needed. I have no idea why he doesn’t play there.
4. Jonny bairstow
5. Stone or Lawrence
6. Chris Woakes
7. Josh Butler WK shouldn’t be messed around with again just keep him as the WK
8. Dominic Bess would prefer Abdul rashid but not going to happen
9. Sam Curran
10. Stuart broad
11. James Anderson rotate with wood
12th man mark wood
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Is that the batting order you want or just occasional random placement. Woakes above butter, especially away from home, and curran below bess looks off. Root doesn't bat 3 because he's shite there for some reason. Averages 38 there and 49 at 4.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Don't want to get carried away (I mean, Keystone Jennings scored a ton on debut and we all know how that worked out) but young Danny Lawrence's encouraging 73 might mean our selectors are choosing the batting from a position of relative strength when Pope is (properly) fit and Burns and Sir Benjamin are available again.
