StephenZA
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I would pick Starc over Philander....
in the 100m dash. But a pie eating contest....
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England disintegrating like in 2013-14 Ashes - Johnson
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in the 100m dash. But a pie eating contest....
OverratedSanity
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I'd probably take Starc in a pie chucking contest though.
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hey if its good enough for the American presidency
akilana
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Only the Australian selectors...
Top_Cat
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It's basically one more wicket in the same time period...
Or an Australian. Same difference tbh.
adub
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The laugh value when Starc despite bowling his usual amount of 4 balls ends up with about 21 wickets at 18 when Australia go over to Yarpiland and win their standard 2-1 series with Philander being unable to break through our top order except for one lollapse in the Test SA wins.
Oh sure, man. You guys were singing the same old song before the 2016/17 series too. Did Starc take " 21 wickets at 18" against a lineup with an out of form Amla and no De Villiers? Also remember the hilarious predictions of how Philander would be smashed out of the series by rampant OZ batsmen and the tedious hilarmeme about how he would sit out a match, because "lolololol, Philander is a big ol fatty who can't bowl in flat tracks lol"? I see that the tired old meme is still being deployed by OZ posters, including the one above me with the usual artfulness and grace.
You'd think that after Philander became "Man of the Series" after all that premature crowing, you guys would learn to take an L, but nope, no lessons learned.
Gob
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Vern is the better bowler over all as the record indicates but that doesn't mean he should be picked ahead of Starc in all circumstances. I mean do you really want the big Vern bowling right now at the WACA assuming that he doesn't pull his hammy before the toss ( would prob go for non for 150 in the second dig now that i said it). Starc bashing has almost reached the Shaun Marsh level here i think
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Woodster
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Why are England disintegrating?? This series was always going to go this way?? This is no surprise.Guys! England are busy disintegrating right before our eyes and the thread dedicated to discussing it is distracted with side shows.
Come on! Start a Philander v. Starc thread and take your chatter there
andruid
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Let me posit an idea here as a way of getting this thread drifting back to the OP. What if the itinerary for an Ashes your in England looks something like this.
First test at Headingley, on a green top to snatch the early lead. Second test at Old Trafford, with a classic Old Trafford wicket, to give the semblance of Australia having a shot, but still favoring the home team, then the third test at Edgbaston where again you lay on a green top that massively favours England. Fourth and fifth tests at Oval and then 'climax' at Lords.
Would we be talking about Australian disintegration every time they went to England? Just a thought experiment that came to me as I reflect on this series result.
First test at Headingley, on a green top to snatch the early lead. Second test at Old Trafford, with a classic Old Trafford wicket, to give the semblance of Australia having a shot, but still favoring the home team, then the third test at Edgbaston where again you lay on a green top that massively favours England. Fourth and fifth tests at Oval and then 'climax' at Lords.
Would we be talking about Australian disintegration every time they went to England? Just a thought experiment that came to me as I reflect on this series result.