DoG's Top 100 Test Bowlers Countdown Thread 100-1

[Starfighter]

Looking at who's coming through now I'm expecting Davidson soon, part of the low-career points lot.

 

[Brian Lara]

No-one got it.

No.75

Keith Miller (Australia) 692

Quality Points: 640
Career Points: 52

Career: 1946-1956
Wickets: 170
Gold Performances: 1
7/60 vs. England at Brisbane 1946 (16.88)
Silver Performances: 6
Bronze Performances: 0

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 23.48 (22.98) 55.01 (61.54) 3.50
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (1948-1955): 21.37 55.40 3.53
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 25.44 57.81 3.97
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 23.35 60.42 3.67

Miller is a fine example of how my system works. Even though he has a great set of averages, his points per innings across the board is low compared to other bowlers in the top 100. In the top 100, his overall PPI ranks at no.99, just ahead of Chaminda Vaas.

A bowler's points for overall, peak, non-home, and quality opposition are calculated as ((((average*4)+(strike-rate*1))*2)+(points per innings*1))/3

These ratios can of course be looked at and revised in the future.

How is points per innings calculated?

 

[Burgey]

Lee ranked lower than Hoggard?

You'd hope so. Am actually sad to see him make the list, but then again I despise the ****.

 

[Red]

You'd hope so. Am actually sad to see him make the list, but then again I despise the ****.

Ditto. Hoggard a better bowler imo

 

[smash84]

I bet one of Hadlee, Murali, Barnes or McGrath would most likely end up #1.

such a risky bet

 

[ankitj]

I think Walsh and Kumble are going to be ranked much higher than where CW typically puts them.

 

[The Battlers Prince]

I think Walsh and Kumble are going to be ranked much higher than where CW typically puts them.

I hope so, particularly for Walsh. I wonder how close Walsh and Ambrose are in the countdown

 

[Days of Grace]

How is points per innings calculated?

Every performance of a bowler (their innings analysis) is given a rating based on opposition, match conditions, result, etc. The points per innings is simply the average of all of the performances across the bowler's career. I think it gives a better indication of a bowler's quality than simply wickets per innings. See my top 100 test batting and bowling performances thread.

No.72

Brian Statham (England) 698

Quality Points: 624
Career Points: 74

Career: 1951-1965
Wickets: 252
Gold Performances: 2
7/39 vs. South Africa at Lord's 1955 (18.86)
7/57 vs. Australia at 1959 (15.17)
Silver Performances: 5
Bronze Performances: 3

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 24.97 (24.85) 55.93 (63.71) 3.73
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (1957-1962): 21.98 49.75 4.71
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 27.36 60.07 3.25
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 30.04 63.58 3.35

 

[trundler]

such a risky bet

Well I did omit Marshall. Most likely it will be Hadlee or Murali.

 

[NUFAN]

So inconsistency is highly rewarded. Better to take 0-100 + 6-100 in a match vs 3-100 + 3-100? Is that correct?

This is always an interesting debate but for a spinner id lean towards the 0&6 wickets over 3&3.

I just have this mindset that the 0/100 is keeping the runs down in the first innings and the 6/100 spins his side to victory.

 

[Days of Grace]

This is always an interesting debate but for a spinner id lean towards the 0&6 wickets over 3&3.

I just have this mindset that the 0/100 is keeping the runs down in the first innings and the 6/100 spins his side to victory.

You also have to ask the question: which match will be better remembered?

No.71

Terry Alderman (Australia) 698

Quality Points: 643
Career Points: 55

Career: 1981-1991
Wickets: 170
Gold Performances: 0
Best Performance: 6/47 vs. England at Brisbane 1990 (14.91)
Silver Performances: 9
Bronze Performances: 6

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 26.84 (27.15) 59.38 (59.89) 4.80
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (1981-1989): 27.01 58.51 4.87
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 25.40 54.42 5.40
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 28.25 61.06 4.55

 

[mr_mister]

Interesting case. Half his test wickets came in two series and he played 41 matches. Was helpless against the Windies

 

[The Battlers Prince]

Trueman FTW

 

[Days of Grace]

No.70

Jason Gillespie (Australia) 700

Quality Points: 630
Career Points: 70

Career: 1996-2006
Wickets: 259
Gold Performances: 2
7/37 vs. England at Leeds 1997 (17.53)
6/40 vs. West Indies at Melbourne 2000 (15.98)
Silver Performances: 5
Bronze Performances: 4

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 24.85 (26.14) 58.43 (54.96) 3.85
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2002-2004): 21.65 58.39 4.27
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 26.00 58.74 3.81
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 27.25 61.55 3.48

 

[stephen]

Probably the fairest rating of Gillespie. Good but nowhere near the elite. I'd have Miller ahead of him though.

 

[Adders]

Excellent. Jimmy is going to come in higher than Gillespie. Top job DOG.

 

[stephen]

Excellent. Jimmy is going to come in higher than Gillespie. Top job DOG.

As he should.

Anderson I imagine is going to land around the 35 mark. Maybe as high as 25.

 

[Days of Grace]

Excellent. Jimmy is going to come in higher than Gillespie. Top job DOG.

How do you know Jimmeh made the list?

Gillespie had more output than Miller. If Miller wasn't an allrounder, then there is no doubt if would have been used more and consequently would have taken more wickets, or maybe more wickets at a higher average? Who knows.

Here's a surprise:

No.69

Stuart Clark (Australia) 700

Quality Points: 675
Career Points: 25

Career: 2006-2009
Wickets: 94
Gold Performances: 0
Best Performance: 5/55 vs. South Africa at Cape Town 2006 (14.29)
Silver Performances: 2
Bronze Performances: 2

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 21.98 (23.86) 57.15 (54.74) 4.27
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2006-2009): 21.98 57.15 4.27
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 23.29 60.57 4.12
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 21.36 54.61 4.49

 

[Starfighter]

Fewest career points of any bowler so far I think.

 

[Starfighter]

I'll be interested to see what Steyn and Rabada's adjusted strike rates look like.