CW's Ranking of All-Rounders (Tests)

[subshakerz]

What does it mean to select balanced allrounders like Miller or Botham higher than specialist ones like Kallis or Hadlee when we will likely put the latter ones in our side anyways? Specialist ones are simply better for the balance of the side in most cases.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Kallis

 

[Line and Length]

I have to stick with Kallis

 

[honestbharani]

Kallis

 

[trundler]

Miller

 

[OverratedSanity]

Keith Miller

 

[srbhkshk]

Botham

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Kallis

 

[ankitj]

Kallis Hadlee

 

[Migara]

Kallis
He has a runs v wickets average comparison of +22.72 compared with Imran's +14.78 - a difference too hard to ignore..

The difference of 20 of bat average of 45 and bowling average of 25, is not the same as bowl average of 20 and batting average of 35. At the lower end of bowling averages the frequencies taper off rapidly.

 

[Migara]

Botham averaged 21 with the bat and 35 with the ball against the greatest test team of all time. Imran averaged 28 with the bat and 21 with the ball against the greatest test team of all time.

Not much difference in batting I guess, but that bowling difference…

And he captained a side which drew with the greatest test team of all time. That is serious ****.

 

[Migara]

Imran

 

[Fuller Pilch]

And he captained a side which drew with the greatest test team of all time. That is serious ****.

Is it? So did Jeremy Coney and that hardly makes him an ATG.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Yep. I think it might be the biggest myth on here.

Imran was ridiculous.

Imran batting was closer to Hadlee than Kapil or Botham, when he was an ATG bowler.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Yeah I dont see the point of ranking allrounder differently than as cricketer.

Ok, Who is Better Allrounder Lara or Cairns?

 

[Line and Length]

Imran

You're a bit late. Imran was voted in at 2 a few hours ago.

 

[trundler]

I think that get's overplayed. It's not like he wasn't a proper allrounder prior to 1988, after which he became a specialist bat until retirement. In fact, in his bowling peak from 80-88 he was also the best allrounder in the world.

Glad to see that baseless myth put to rest once and for all.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Keith Miller.

 

[subshakerz]

Ok, Who is Better Allrounder Lara or Cairns?

Lara isn't an allrounder.

 

[HookShot]

Richard Hadlee

(Pretty obvious choice)