There is no way Dhoni should be here, man. There's no way he's better than Root, Greenidge, Lloyd, Miandad, etc. Just no way. It's disrespectful to test-match cricket to have Dhoni ahead of those guys. You're supposed to be regular followers; this is just really disappointing. You will bring odis now, but all these guys are superb odi players too. It's your opinion, obviously, but expect a bit better from regular viewers.
Dhoni is arguably the Greatest ODI captain of All Time, a brilliant wicketkeeper and a top 5 bat and arguably player. That's too many accolades there. And in Test cricket, I completely genuinely have Dhoni as a wicketkeeper batsman only behind Gilly, Ames and Knott; equal with Watling, Waite, Cameron, de Kock, Engineer, Pant and Healy. So not like he is losing points there as well. Then there is the impact factor, with the impact he had on Indian cricket. I can understand why some might feel his inclusion here rash, but I think overall he deserves to be here.
Keeper batsman, yes. Pant better bat, worse keep; Watling and Dhoni around equal in both disciples, BJ is slightly ahead. They definitely aren't far apart as batsmen. Dhoni is largely overhated for some reason lately here imo. No way he deserved to rank 16th in the keepers' poll.Dhoni as good a batsman as Pant and Watling
I like the list. The only issue is Steve Smith. He should be ahead of Hammond and Hutton.
Hammond has things like bowling and ATG slip fielding and Hutton was an opener; but more importantly than both, active players gets overlooked more often when looking at "greatness", as it encompasses many things. Like, some might even fine Smith points for the Sand paper gate.
I mostly like your cricket takes and you seems to be a very good guy. But man, Dhoni simply doesn't deserve to be here or anywhere close to it, he's overrated even in odis. And his test career is simply nowhere near others to warrant this level ranking. This is probably the only take in cricket which has really rattled me this much. There are so many others who deserve higher ranking than him even if you factor in odis. It's just not right seeing this take from regular viewer.
As I said earlier, of course it's mostly ODIs as I feel Dhoni is the best ODI player not yet ranked; but I also think he is equal to any Test wicketkeeper batsman I haven't voted for. I might as well be overrating Dhoni, will think about it some more; but that's honestly how I feel.
It's not about Dhoni; it's more about you rating him ahead of players who had much better test careers and who were also fine ODI players. It will be an injustice to sport itself to rate Dhoni above those sorts of players, such as Lloyd Greenidge.
Again, Dhoni is an ATG in ODIs, top 5 player of All Time and he is definitely pretty great in Tests also.
Kapil Dev is ranked already.
He simply isn't top 5 in odis or even close to that level. I suggest you to check it properly and he wasn't even close to being great in tests. You're seriously overrating him. Massively overrated cricketer, arguably most overrated sportsperson of all time.
I think we should agree to disagree for now and discuss it further in some Dhoni related thread.
