Isn't it bad form to count the votes before the selection is complete? I've already voted but if I came on just now and saw the current vote tally it may influence my vote (or gives people the knowledge to do best strategic votes). Just wondering.
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CW's 100 Greatest Cricketers Poll
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sayon basak
International Debutant
Okay that sounds better than mine
sayon basak
International Debutant
Don't think this would influence strategic voters. If I like Washington Sundar and think he should be in the top 10, I'll put him in 1 without knowing the results.
Honesty is the goodest policy.
capt_Luffy
International Captain
I think rogue votes can be problematic with both methods really. Like here two or three meme votes can get a mediocre player in, but similarly by your methodology, suppose player A gets consistently ranked No 1 by almost everyone and B 2nd; with a clear hierarchy. In this instance, if a voter votes for B as 1 and doesn't votes for A at all, B might get ahead. That's the problem with alloting so many points to each vote. For now, as I have already declared the vote point system, I will stick with it unless some major problem arises. Tar por dekha jak na ki hoi....
sayon basak
International Debutant
Will you count the comedy votes? And are there any logical way to definitively determine which is a meme vote or which is not? One can seriously think Nasir Hossain is a top 10 player.
capt_Luffy
International Captain
By principle, I will count them UNLESS the voter gives me permission not to. Like if someone votes for meme now, I will count them if they are not getting a rank anyways. In case they do, I might personally request the voters to forfeit their vote on them and I believe most will do. I have a feeling problem will arise with Jadeja who actually has a claim to be here and is CW's one of favourite meme...... Again, when people start voting for someone like that, I will try to talk with the voters if they are making the cut, or else no. And if someone refuses, then it's just democracy, can't do anything.
Just like we've already had someone put Woakes as #1
I was thinking more like Gilchrist is in my top 10 and I see by your vote tally he's outside the top 10, so I place him 2nd to Bradman and that gives enough to bump him to 10th
capt_Luffy
International Captain
I would really like if voters don't do that, but if they do, there's nothing really to prevent that. Like, the way Sayon tallied the points, if someone wants to rigg the vote in a similar manner, they could had calculated that as well. While the points tally being readily available can be considered more tempting, it's nevertheless won't detract riggers as the the votes are public.Just like we've already had someone put Woakes as #1
I was thinking more like Gilchrist is in my top 10 and I see by your vote tally he's outside the top 10, so I place him 2nd to Bradman and that gives enough to bump him to 10th
sayon basak
International Debutant
That's why I proposed the G=nA/P formula. But I don't think it's necessary anymore as capt_Luffy said no. Of appearance will be considered.Just like we've already had someone put Woakes as #1
I was thinking more like Gilchrist is in my top 10 and I see by your vote tally he's outside the top 10, so I place him 2nd to Bradman and that gives enough to bump him to 10th
sayon basak
International Debutant
Yes no formula is immune to corruption. Only corruption can bring the game of cricket down.
MexicanRiver
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
After degrading every allrounders every second day here. You have managed to have Sobers above Bradman. I have no words for your greatness man.
kyear2
International Coach
There are some here who have listed a parade of all rounders regardless of primary skill.After degrading every allrounders every second day here. You have managed to have Sobers above Bradman. I have no words for your greatness man.
I rate them in two main ways, judging first and foremost by primary skill, and how they contribute to a team.
Sobers is arguably 2nd best batsman ever, at times opened the bowling for his team and fielded at 2nd slip for the pacers and short leg or leg slip for Gibbs. He was always be the most important player on what ever team he's on, even an ATG one.
He could have finished anywhere from 1st to 3rd in my rating and yes, that how highly I rate Marshall and those 3 are without doubt the top 3 greatest in the history of the game.
Everyone is free to disagree
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
True. Like Sayon says, honesty is the goodest policy.Just like we've already had someone put Woakes as #1
OverratedSanity
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A vote calculation like this is always going to be a little flawed. I'd have voted Bradman as 1st, 2nd and 3rd to show the gap I think is between him and sobers but I don't think I'm allowed to do that.
It'd actually be funny if someone left off Bradman entirely from the list to get sobers to 1. It's kinda the same thing that happened with an old poll smali ran on here where sobers won despite like 90% of people having Bradman at 1.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Hasn't Woakes got double-digit points (10) though? @Red_Ink_Squid
capt_Luffy
International Captain
I get the sentiment, but believe that by the difference in point between them; it will take atleast 3 voters not voting for Don at all to let Sobers be no 1; as there are over 20 voters who ranked Don higher and some ranked Grace ahead also.
I think such a problem might arise when the no of voters will reduce and the players became closer.
Swamp Witch Hattie
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
This forum reeks of the patriarchy. The only women I'm seeing mentioned here are Grace, Lily (misspelt as Lillee) and Lara. Oh, and Viv. A few posters have even selected a cat:
subshakerz
International Coach
Bradman
Sobers
Imran
Tendulkar
Hobbs
Viv
Hadlee
McGrath
Warne
Murali
Sobers
Imran
Tendulkar
Hobbs
Viv
Hadlee
McGrath
Warne
Murali
sayon basak
International Debutant
0 is not counted as a digit. Bad luck
