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_00_deathscar

International Regular
SteveNZ said:
I think that's a lot different - I could go to watch actual legends until the day they kick the bucket. Same as I could always watch Jack Nicklaus, Arnie, Gary Player etc well into their 70s.

When the 'legends' are the calibre of Munaf Patel, it gets different
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True but I think you’ll always get these mixed “legends” teams now - everyone won’t be a former superstar since no way their schedules will all align seeing as they no longer play professionally. So you’ll get like 3-4 actual legends and the rest a “why?” kind of player.

Saying that these teams seemed to lack those 3-4 actual legends too though so…
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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With these legends games, Team Rugby in the Black Clash play to the whistle with their selections against the 40 year old ex Black Caps. Jordie Barrett is 23/24 and was a proper prospect in cricket under 19s, and would be again if he code switched. Kieran Read was the Jordie of his day, but is old now. Kaylum Boshier would have at least played FC cricket. To make Team Rugby you at least need cricket age group cred, and they're a bunch of 25-35 year olds.

Then there was the time they wheeled out Murali 'because he likes rugby so he counts' haha.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Regarding the Legend League-type games, it's ridiculous when some of these guys show up totally out of shape. I had seen Vivek Razdan in a HK Super Six game a long time back, he could barely move but somehow still wanted to be out there. Same with Nikhil Chopra in the on-going Legends League. At least maintain some fitness if you want to participate in these kind of games.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
SteveNZ said:
I think that's a lot different - I could go to watch actual legends until the day they kick the bucket. Same as I could always watch Jack Nicklaus, Arnie, Gary Player etc well into their 70s.

When the 'legends' are the calibre of Munaf Patel, it gets different
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Munaf is a terrible example. The guy has maintained a good level of fitness after retirement and has bowled really well in these kind of tourneys. He might not be a legend, but you'll find it tough to make 3-4 teams full of legends. Guys like Munaf, Kulasekera, etc. add a lot of value to these kind of games.
 
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SteveNZ

International Coach
karan_fromthestands said:
Munaf is a terrible example. The guy has maintained a good level of fitness after retirement and has bowled really well in these kind of tourneys. He might not be a legend, but you'll find it tough to make 3-4 teams full of legends. Guys like Munaf, Kulasekera, etc. add a lot of value to these kind of games.
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I mean, it's not a terrible example. He's actually a perfect example of what I mean. No offense to Munaf Patel, but I didn't get excited about watching him during his career, let alone 10 years after it.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
SteveNZ said:
I mean, it's not a terrible example. He's actually a perfect example of what I mean. No offense to Munaf Patel, but I didn't get excited about watching him during his career, let alone 10 years after it.
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Of course, hence we have more popular guys in the promotional material and not Munaf, Kula, etc.
 
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Line and Length

Line and Length

Cricketer Of The Year
Some time ago I coached an amateur AFL team and some players from that team went on to play in an Interstate Masters (40+ competition). One won the award for the best player in the competition despite coming up against many "name" players who played AFL (then VFL) at the highest level. He explained that these past 'superstars' were so banged up after many seasons playing with injuries/pain-killers etc that they were physical wrecks.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
SteveNZ said:
I mean, it's not a terrible example. He's actually a perfect example of what I mean. No offense to Munaf Patel, but I didn't get excited about watching him during his career, let alone 10 years after it.
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I think the point is that there never really will be a League of legends where every team has 11 legends. Its more like there are some legends playing in the league but you need the others to sorta fill out the teams.
 
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SteveNZ

International Coach
Yeah...I guess my point is that it just feels a bit **** where Legends cricket is concerned.

Incidentally, there was a Beach cricket series in the mid 2000s which was epic. Or at least I thought it was. It had a full stack of legends from Australia, NZ and England. It was pretty Mickey Mouse in terms of the size of the ground and the format, but it worked because the names were big.

 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
SteveNZ said:
Yeah...I guess my point is that it just feels a bit **** where Legends cricket is concerned.

Incidentally, there was a Beach cricket series in the mid 2000s which was epic. Or at least I thought it was. It had a full stack of legends from Australia, NZ and England. It was pretty Mickey Mouse in terms of the size of the ground and the format, but it worked because the names were big.

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I had followed this, but it was more or less unwatchable tbh.
 
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Hurricane2

U19 Cricketer
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www.espncricinfo.com

Wayne Phillips on the mental-health struggles that curtailed his career: 'I was vomiting during games'

The keeper-batter came into international cricket at a time when Australia were at a low ebb, and it took a toll on his mental health
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com
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Great article

Burgey will not want to hear this but border used to rip into Phillips on a regular basis if he got out bring too cavalier
This led to a fraying of Phillips nerves and the resultant depression
Cricket in general is well documented for having the highest rate of mental health issues due to the rocks or diamonds nature of your fortunes as a player

It was a different age where players in many sporting codes were abused if the coach or captain thought they weren’t taking it seriously enough
And certainly Phillips whole modus operandi right from the start was carefree cavalier risk taking.
The exact opposite to everything Border wanted and demanded in forthright words.
 
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