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Cricket stuff that doesn't deserve its own thread

TheJediBrah

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I do find it interesting that former international cricketers regress to club level cricketers in their 40s, in some cases not too long after retirement. What those Black Clash matches have showed is that a 43 year old international cricketer who retired 8 years ago is at about the same level as a 23 year old rugby player who played provincial under-19 cricket but hasn't picked up a bat for 5 years.

I really would've thought that the refined and honed skills of the ex-cricketers would have the rugby players with a cricket background well covered, but I guess age waits for no man.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Known plenty of professional athletes that fall completely away within 6 months of retiring and can double in size. When you consider how much training, both skills and fitness, goes into maintaining a professional standard I don't know what you would expect from someone who retired 8 years ago
 

Lillian Thomson

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There's something a little bit tragic about 'legends' cricket, IMO. And I say that as someone who was never within cooee of being a legend, and would very likely also take the cash on offer if I was.
It can be fairly sad to watch. In the 80's I saw a still spritely early 40's Ian Redpath hitting lollipops from a mid 50's unfit Frank Tyson all over the place. It's probably different today but that was not good viewing.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Doesn't surprise me at all. Known plenty of professional athletes that fall completely away within 6 months of retiring and can double in size. When you consider how much training, both skills and fitness, goes into maintaining a professional standard I don't know what you would expect from someone who retired 8 years ago
In this case none of the guys were massively out of shape. Of course I would expect cricketers who hadn't been training to deteriorate, but I'm comparing them to rugby players who ALSO hadn't been training.

It's an interesting thought, the extent to which being an international cricketer isn't so much about innate skill as it is constantly BEING an international cricketer, and that international cricketers who haven't been training revert to being little better at cricket than other good sportsmen who only dabbled in cricket.
 

TheJediBrah

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In this case none of the guys were massively out of shape. Of course I would expect cricketers who hadn't been training to deteriorate, but I'm comparing them to rugby players who ALSO hadn't been training.

It's an interesting thought, the extent to which being an international cricketer isn't so much about innate skill as it is constantly BEING an international cricketer, and that international cricketers who haven't been training revert to being little better at cricket than other good sportsmen who only dabbled in cricket.
Another possibility is Rugby players are usually more natural athletes than cricketers. Wouldn't surprise me at all if cricketers fell away quicker
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Another possibility is Rugby players are usually more natural athletes than cricketers. Wouldn't surprise me at all if cricketers fell away quicker
Well tbf the particular situation I'm talking about was mostly to do with 20-something current rugby players against 40-something ex cricketers, so there was an obvious athleticism advantage to the rugby guys. I was still a bit underwhelmed by how little the skills of an international cricketer mattered once they lost a yard or two, but the proof was in the pudding.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Well tbf the particular situation I'm talking about was mostly to do with 20-something current rugby players against 40-something ex cricketers, so there was an obvious athleticism advantage to the rugby guys. I was still a bit underwhelmed by how little the skills of an international cricketer mattered once they lost a yard or two, but the proof was in the pudding.
Would be interesting to see it reversed - ie. 20-something current NZ cricketers vs 40-something ex-rugby players in a game of rugby.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Would be interesting to see it reversed - ie. 20-something current NZ cricketers vs 40-something ex-rugby players in a game of rugby.
I assume this is at least partly a joke, but it would be genuinely interesting if there were a host of current and recent Black Caps or FC cricketers who had been top junior rugby players - which is basically the case with current rugby players being top junior cricketers. Just highlights how the Black Caps talent pool is even less than you'd think on paper because basically no talented all-round sportsman is choosing cricket.
 

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Looks like it mostly came against the gentle off breaks of 40 year old part-timer Venugopal Rao after RP Singh went down injured. Still pretty glorious though.
Also, 3 sixes came of Manpreet Gony's medium pace and a couple of boundaries of Munaf Patel. They both are pretty OK and have been active in these kind of leagues, so a good innings for a bowler I would say.
 

Shady Slim

International Coach
Last I heard he moved to the US and signed for a team in their new T20 league. I was surprised to see him pop up in this too; it seems like a bit of a cheat.
a guy i play cricket with was involved in a legends game a decade and a half ago that was meant to be sort of, like six to eight club cricketers on each team with the rest as retired legends. the concept of it had all the legends as like over 45s but one of them was the one-year-since-retiring darren lehmann who predictably apparently destroyed everyone
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
Another possibility is Rugby players are usually more natural athletes than cricketers. Wouldn't surprise me at all if cricketers fell away quicker
Depends on their position. Still lots of good rugby playing forwards only get into rugby because they are too fat for football
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Watching Sachin bat when he’s played these legends things of late is still absolutely incredible. Him and Sehwag up top is ridiculous
I think that's a lot different - I could go to watch actual legends until the day they kick the bucket. Same as I could always watch Jack Nicklaus, Arnie, Gary Player etc well into their 70s.

When the 'legends' are the calibre of Munaf Patel, it gets different
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think that's a lot different - I could go to watch actual legends until the day they kick the bucket. Same as I could always watch Jack Nicklaus, Arnie, Gary Player etc well into their 70s.

When the 'legends' are the calibre of Munaf Patel, it gets different
You probably need Munaf Patel playing for Sachin to still look like Sachin, tbf. If Sachin had to face 25yos it'd probably be sad.
 

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