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CricAddict

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jarvis is one of my fave zimbabwean cricketers. sad to see him go. i still remember he and brian vitori exploding onto the scene.
Yes. Jarvis and Vitori had a great start as a bowling combination. With Taylor, Ervine and Williams in batting, things looked rosy for a while before it all went down as usual.
 

TheJediBrah

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Yes it was a free hit. So basically the equivalent of a bye through to the keeper. Playing a shot is only a factor if it's a leg bye
 

Gob

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If you took away dropped catches all bowlers averages would drop significantly
If you took away all your posts from the forum the average quality of posts would increase significantly.
If you took away your face the average quality of you would increase significantly
If you took away your mum the average you on the planet would decrease significantly.
Exactly the kind of intelligent and intuitive discussions that seperates CW from the rest
 

TheJediBrah

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Peak Irfan + Balaji + Sreesanth would have been a killer attack in England.
for the most part I think they would probably be pretty crap tbh

If I had a dollar for every time a bowler who "should be good in England" was total ****e. And those 3 were rarely any good at the best of times.
 

Flem274*

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yeah that's the first time i've seen balaji included in a potential all conquering attack.

sreesanth had some serious talent when he wanted to use it i'll grant you.
 

TheJediBrah

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Sreesanth played 6 tests in England and averaged 50 with the ball. Can't imagine why Balaji would have done any better, I don't recall him ever resembling an international standard bowler.

Pathan was a decent bowler for a bit but better left-arm swing bowlers than him have been terrible in England (eg. Starc, Johnson)

for me Srinath, Mohanty and BKV Prasad could have been suited well to England
 

karan_fromthestands

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for the most part I think they would probably be pretty crap tbh

If I had a dollar for every time a bowler who "should be good in England" was total ****e. And those 3 were rarely any good at the best of times.
I get that, it's just like ppl expecting a spinner to be great in SC if he is able to perform decently outside the SC on tracks that aren't as helpful. And it doesn't always work out that way and that can happen because batsmen in their home games are generally more difficult to bowl against because of how familiar they are with the conditions. But sometimes it can be a little different. For e.g. Praveen Kumar, he relied heavily on swing to get his wickets and he did really well in England, in fact he performed much better than people expected him to despite of his lack of pace. I don't think "any" pace bowler would perform better in England just because of the favourable conditions, but pure swing bowlers will surely have more chances of success if they don't get carried away with the amount of help on offer.

Irfan was like a better version of Praveen Kumar when he had started off and was a couple of yards quicker. I definitely see someone like him doing well in those conditions.
 

TheJediBrah

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I get that, it's just like ppl expecting a spinner to be great in SC if he is able to perform decently outside the SC on tracks that aren't as helpful. And it doesn't always work out that way and that can happen because batsmen in their home games are generally more difficult to bowl against because of how familiar they are with the conditions. But sometimes it can be a little different. For e.g. Praveen Kumar, he relied heavily on swing to get his wickets and he did really well in England, in fact he performed much better than people expected him to despite of his lack of pace. I don't think "any" pace bowler would perform better in England just because of the favourable conditions, but pure swing bowlers will surely have more chances of success if they don't get carried away with the amount of help on offer.

Irfan was like a better version of Praveen Kumar when he had started off and was a couple of yards quicker. I definitely see someone like him doing well in those conditions.
the "visiting swing bowler would do better in England" assumption is not always the case, it's often the line and length tall seam bowlers that do better. A lot of visiting swing bowlers can't figure out the duke ball and end up being trash. Just looking at some numbers Venkatesh Prasad was very good in England. Sreesanth was terrible, statistically.

re. Pathan, it's all well and good to "see someone like him doing well in those conditions" but that doesn't mean much. As I said, Johnson and Starc who are similar left-arm swing bowlers, probably better overall than Pathan, did worse in England than they did overall.

Anyway of the 3 Pathan is the least-bad call. Sreesanth is a bad call. Balaji is even worse.
 

GoodAreasShane

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My memory may be failing me somewhat, but the Balaji I remember didn't really swing it that much at all. From what I recall moving it in a bit inwards off the seam from a shortish length was his general modus operandi
 

TheJediBrah

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Sounds about right. He mostly plied his trade as an ODI bowler and hit the blockhole well at the death. Was always just short of proper international standard from memory, though tbf I didn't see him much with the red ball.

Amazing hair though. Should have been a spokesperson for Pantene
 

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