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honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
It would be interesting to see if someone can dig up the stats and if they bear this out, but I always felt McGrath (and to an extent, Gillespie) were harder to face for left handers than right handers, coz their around the wicket angle almost always took the leave out of the equation for the lefties.
 
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Kirkut

International Regular
I've always imagined how VVS Laxman would have played Michael Holding at his prime, Holding was scary fast but Laxman enjoyed batting against pace and bounce. Marshall and Roberts would have probably got him with off cutters though.

Sehwag of 2008/09 against peak Ajmal of 2012 in UAE conditions.
 
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Kirkut

International Regular
Pap Finn Keighl said:
Gavaskar Vs Mcgrath
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McGrath wins this. One thing that I've learned after following Warne and McGrath for almost their entire careers is that a batsman should never play the waiting game against them. England for example were overly cautious against Warne and complicated their game unnecessarily.

Same can be said for McGrath, Dravid picked the wrong bowler to play the waiting game against and often got out to him.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Kirkut said:
It won't be this easy at all. The margin for error in McGrath's bowling is equivalent to precision you find in German engineering, you simply cannot play your shots with so much freedom.
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Hadlee was similar to McGrath though. And it's not like McGrath was never taken apart at times.

Though I do feel that there was a lack of ultra-aggressive bats against McGrath generally in his career. Tendulkar, Lara, Anwar and a few others did well but someone like Ponting or Viv I think would have well and truly got on top of McGrath.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Kirkut said:
McGrath wins this. One thing that I've learned after following Warne and McGrath for almost their entire careers is that a batsman should never play the waiting game against them. England for example were overly cautious against Warne and complicated their game unnecessarily.

Same can be said for McGrath, Dravid picked the wrong bowler to play the waiting game against and often got out to him.
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Yeah Mohd Asif said something similar about why he preferred bowling to Dravid than Sehwag, since Dravid let him get in a rhythm.
 
mr_mister

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
subshakerz said:
Something like this
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https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-63459/full-scorecard


So I had to look up the scorecard and lo and behold Hadlee took 9 for the match and was MOM while that "demolition" of Hadlee by Viv resulted in a quick fire 38


I'm sorry but Viv really is so overrated. I get such moderate upgrade on Maxwell vibes from him

Like, the facts are that he had the swagger, he had style, he had the ability to get on top of briefly and potentially ruin a bowlers confidence, while looking like a million bucks when getting them out of the middle of the bat.

but his rate of hundreds and test output post 70s really do nothing to warrant the reputation he gets. Like for all the highlights of him hitting sixes there are probably several lowlights of him throwing his wicket away when he should have gone on with it. The gaslighting needs to stop with him
 
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Kirkut

International Regular
subshakerz said:
Hadlee was similar to McGrath though. And it's not like McGrath was never taken apart at times.

Though I do feel that there was a lack of ultra-aggressive bats against McGrath generally in his career. Tendulkar, Lara, Anwar and a few others did well but someone like Ponting or Viv I think would have well and truly got on top of McGrath.
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Hadlee was more like peak James Anderson in bowling style, McGrath was more like a less intense and more sophisticated/polished version of Ambrose.

And no batsman could have ever dominated McGrath irrespective of the era. Batsmen may have had their 15 minutes of fame when they hammered McGrath for fours, but in the end he always won the battle.
 
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Kirkut

International Regular
mr_mister said:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-63459/full-scorecard


So I had to look up the scorecard and lo and behold Hadlee took 9 for the match and was MOM while that "demolition" of Hadlee by Viv resulted in a quick fire 38


I'm sorry but Viv really is so overrated. I get such moderate upgrade on Maxwell vibes from him

Like, the facts are that he had the swagger, he had style, he had the ability to get on top of briefly and potentially ruin a bowlers confidence, while looking like a million bucks when getting them out of the middle of the bat.

but his rate of hundreds and test output post 70s really do nothing to warrant the reputation he gets. Like for all the highlights of him hitting sixes there are probably several lowlights of him throwing his wicket away when he should have gone on with it. The gaslighting needs to stop with him
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And I've grown tired of him being labelled brave for not wearing a helmet. This isn't mma guys...
 
Pap Finn Keighl

Pap Finn Keighl

International Debutant
Kirkut said:
McGrath wins this. One thing that I've learned after following Warne and McGrath for almost their entire careers is that a batsman should never play the waiting game against them. England for example were overly cautious against Warne and complicated their game unnecessarily.

Same can be said for McGrath, Dravid picked the wrong bowler to play the waiting game against and often got out to him.
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Dravid is not Gavaskar.
 
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