Cricket Chat not as exciting as before

[shortpitched713]

Bringing the awards back would help somewhat imo. Nothing to bring back the vigor of the old debates than a bit of extra incentive.

 

[SJS]

Bringing the awards back would help somewhat imo. Nothing to bring back the vigor of the old debates than a bit of extra incentive.

I always felt the awards were really a good addition to the CC (not necessarily for this reason though) and I do hope they come back. We need some fun in this place.

 

[Perm]

Bringing the awards back would help somewhat imo. Nothing to bring back the vigor of the old debates than a bit of extra incentive.

Yeah, I for one always liked getting awards. It was like a congratulations if you were on top of your game that week, and if you didn't get anything, drove me to contribute more. Still looking for the elusive Warne or Afridi (I think that's what they were).

 

[shortpitched713]

You can't find CC anything in 2003, you weren't 'ere.

'E could have been lurking Richard.

JeeeZz.

 

[pasag]

Only been back a day or two but the cricket discussion seems as good as ever with plenty of interesting topics to catch up on looking back at the last 10 pages or so.

 

[Richard]

Bringing the awards back would help somewhat imo. Nothing to bring back the vigor of the old debates than a bit of extra incentive.

I always felt the awards were really a good addition to the CC (not necessarily for this reason though) and I do hope they come back. We need some fun in this place.

Yeah, I for one always liked getting awards. It was like a congratulations if you were on top of your game that week, and if you didn't get anything, drove me to contribute more. Still looking for the elusive Warne or Afridi (I think that's what they were).

It was a shame the Awards had to stop at the time they did, and the plan has always been to reintroduce them, the only question has been when. I'd be more than willing to do it at the next possible opportunity, but it would depend on being able to rebuild the Awards team. Akhil, for one, has barely been around for about 4 or 5 months, at least, now. I'm not so sure about Blake, he was never a big poster anyway, and Heath I'm sure will confirm his situation if he reads this thread. Sean, undoubtedly, like me would be keen to restart any time.

I for one don't think Awards would be do-able without Akhil's input, and his posting in recent months leads me to the conclusion he'd not be able to do the job at the current time.

 

[Perm]

Would be able to put my hand up as a judge of something small, even though my activity is going to decrease shortly I daresay.

 

[howardj]

All the Cricket Chat heavyweights are back this year:

Top Cat, Faaip, Jono, Nnanden, Vic O, Burgey, Slow Love, Perm, Clapo, DCE, etc.

I guess it's the quality of the cricket, more than anything, that brings the heavy duty posters back.

Loving it.

 

[adharcric]

Great to see quality posters return to CC but I'm equally disappointed in the growing abundance of poor posters polluting CC with trivial threads and bordering-on-trollish posts. The mods are doing a good job but some part of me feels that they aren't harsh enough on some of these newer members - they need to be given a chance to improve (considering many quality posters started out pretty much crap) but there's a limit. Of course, the kind of moderation that I'm talking about - where it's about maintaining a high rather than merely acceptable standard on these forums - may be impractical. Does anyone else share these views?

 

[pasag]

Great to see quality posters return to CC but I'm equally disappointed in the growing abundance of poor posters polluting CC with trivial threads and bordering-on-trollish posts. The mods are doing a good job but some part of me feels that they aren't harsh enough on some of these newer members - they need to be given a chance to improve (considering many quality posters started out pretty much crap) but there's a limit. Of course, the kind of moderation that I'm talking about - where it's about maintaining a high rather than merely acceptable standard on these forums - may be impractical. Does anyone else share these views?

It certainly a fair point, I think it's hard to find the line though and banning people from the outset could mean us losing quality members in the long run and could itself have a detrimental effect on the forum atmosphere.

Obviously we want to maintain the standard of discussion at the highest quality (probably the best cricket forum on the net in this regard, having visited nearly every major one) but at the same time mass bannings isn't always appropriate. Also, I'm a big believer that a few words from senior and respected members of the forum asking the poster to step back into line can work wonders and more drastic measures might not be needed.

 

[Top_Cat]

............and all will be well.

 

[Perm]

Thanks howardj

FWIW I think CC has been **** lately, and almost all of it stems from the Second Test between India and Australia.

 

[Flem274*]

Thanks howardj

FWIW I think CC has been **** lately, and almost all of it stems from the Second Test between India and Australia.

Haha, I don't go anywhere near that tour thread anymore. I can't keep up because someone posts every 2.5 seconds, therefore dial up struggles to load it up and then when I finally get the damn thing loaded I'm greeted with "SYmONDs I$ A $0rE L0$Er AnD A ChEAT L0Lz" followed by "Shut the **** up you uneducated Indian git just because your team has no spine they should just get hard lol Aussie Rules 4 Life!"

Could be different now of course, I'm stil waiting for it to load though..

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Did people really think along the lines of "I'm going to try for an award with this post." The best posts are spontaneous with the awards just an amusing aside.

 

[adharcric]

It certainly a fair point, I think it's hard to find the line though and banning people from the outset could mean us losing quality members in the long run and could itself have a detrimental effect on the forum atmosphere.

Obviously we want to maintain the standard of discussion at the highest quality (probably the best cricket forum on the net in this regard, having visited nearly every major one) but at the same time mass bannings isn't always appropriate. Also, I'm a big believer that a few words from senior and respected members of the forum asking the poster to step back into line can work wonders and more drastic measures might not be needed.

I'd agree with most of that. I'm not suggesting banning anyone from the outset but I've seen a few members with several hundreds of posts that are hardly showing signs of improvement. Even if they don't break any "rules", they just post crap and that's probably something that can't be dealt with swiftly. Yes, they may improve but I'm just saying it how I see it - CW is not the top-quality, all-class forum (even though it's still good and as you say, the best one) that I used to be proud of some time ago. It's still got plenty of superb posters but it's far from devoid of the cricbuzz types (two years ago, it wasn't quite like this). One thing to be noted is that controversies and big tours in international cricket (Ovalgate, Asif/Akhtar, Aus/Ind) often bring out the poor posters. Perhaps that's why the crap has seemed abundant in recent times.

 

[Prince EWS]

I'd agree with most of that. I'm not suggesting banning anyone from the outset but I've seen a few members with several hundreds of posts that are hardly showing signs of improvement. Even if they don't break any "rules", they just post crap and that's probably something that can't be dealt with swiftly. Yes, they may improve but I'm just saying it how I see it - CW is not the top-quality, all-class forum (even though it's still good and as you say, the best one) that I used to be proud of some time ago. It's still got plenty of superb posters but it's far from devoid of the cricbuzz types (two years ago, it wasn't quite like this). One thing to be noted is that controversies and big tours in international cricket (Ovalgate, Asif/Akhtar, Aus/Ind) often bring out the poor posters. Perhaps that's why the crap has seemed abundant in recent times.

I agree with this post. However, it'd be harsh to just ban members because we didnt like what they contributed. Bias could play its part, or at least seem to have, if we just banned members on the count of adding little or being disliked by the moderation team. We can have talks with them regarding their posting habits but if they don't believe they are doing anything wrong, and in truth actually aren't, banning them wouldn't exactly be right.

As pasag said, it is a fine line. Some of our best and most respected posters started off fairly poorly here, included some of the moderators ourselves, but some members show no signs of improvement and continue to post what is basically crap over a large period of time, even if they don't exactly break the rules, and I think they should be spoken to if not banned temporarily.

 

[Richard]

All the Cricket Chat heavyweights are back this year:

Top Cat, Faaip, Jono, Nnanden, Vic O, Burgey, Slow Love, Perm, Clapo, DCE, etc.

I guess it's the quality of the cricket, more than anything, that brings the heavy duty posters back.

Loving it.

Hmm, I'd agree that there's been some amount of return-to-prominence from a fair few posters in recent times (and incidentally also that there was a period of a couple of weeks of utter rubbish around the SCGgate affair, and inevitably so IMO) but not sure about some of those... Corey (T_C) and Jesse (SL™) being back is terrific obviously as they're two of the best posters ever, and le has been back sporadically. We had tec return recently too, Sangrah (masterblaster) has just announced he intends to make a comeback; 16toS reappeared which was good; Camps (Mr Mxyzpltk) was on hiatus for ages but has been back of late; Matt Pitt (Barney Rubble) likewise.

But TBH, don't think Burgey, Clapo, Nath (Nnanden), Fuller (FDO), Jono, Jack (vic_o) or Smith (dcye) ever went anywhere nor have they really returned of late. And I can tell you beyond doubt Perm never went anywhere.

 

[Richard]

Great to see quality posters return to CC but I'm equally disappointed in the growing abundance of poor posters polluting CC with trivial threads and bordering-on-trollish posts. The mods are doing a good job but some part of me feels that they aren't harsh enough on some of these newer members - they need to be given a chance to improve (considering many quality posters started out pretty much crap) but there's a limit. Of course, the kind of moderation that I'm talking about - where it's about maintaining a high rather than merely acceptable standard on these forums - may be impractical. Does anyone else share these views?

BTW, I don't read the India-in-Australia thread for the reasons Kieron mentioned here (moving way too fast and there being way too many moronic posts) so you might be right.

But in the more general forum area, I can't say there's been anything more of late than there ever has.

There's always been threads that I think "FFS, get rid of this crap"; there's always been threads that should have been posted in already-there threads (I've made suggestions to merge, but nothing often comes of it ); and there's always been the odd idiot that joins, makes a handful of moronic posts and sometimes threads, and usually leaves before reaching 500.

You yourself seem to be back in the last few days too Akhil - haven't seen you around regular-like for ages. Is this long-term?

 

[Tony]

I'm new on here as well and I think a quick word from a moderator is the best thing. Agree a bit about the India tour thread. I can only go one every day or two and it takes too long too stay up to date.

On the comment about some moronic ones appeared after the Sydney test and these sort of persons might drop off before 500 posts.

I nearly left straight away not because of someone like aussie26 who at least was talking about cricket....it was more experienced posters saying things like there was no racism in India as a country (ludicrous) and someone else replying that there was and everyone posting a link to an article which "proved" their point. Which had nothing to do with the cricket or the issue at hand. I work with someone who likes the cricket as well and we talk about all issues in the test matches and I got alot more from that than from the thread at that time.

I would rather the moderators jump in at that point as being ridiculous (India, Aust and other whole countries as racist or not) rather than referring to someone like aussie26 as stupid...maybe just warn him/her for baiting after awhile and then ignore it and it runs out of steam itself. At least he talked about cricket.

 

[Tony]

What I meant is just because something seems intelligent like finding a 2 year old link saying that black students are treated badly in India doesnt mean it should be acceptable. I though that was more stupid than the aussie26 guy harping on about the world cup...that was irritating the former was daftness trying to look intelligent.

I can go on the net and get a million hits by typing in "racism and India" and post a link "proving'' either side. Crickey there is stuff on the net which says the Indians demanded Bucknor to be removed because he was black.