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Cricket 2005 v BLIC 2005

superkingdave

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barmyarmy said:
Have you played the expanded 50 over demo? I bowled Australia out for 277 in 49.4 overs and really enjoyed the bowling and fielding.
is that BLIC you are talking about, where's the 50 over demo?
 

barmyarmy

U19 Captain
Sam, of C2k2 and C2k4 editing fame, has made a demo expander file that allows you to have 10, 20, 40, 50 etc over matches.
Link is here and you'll need the non-commentary version of the demo.
 

Top_Cat

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That's possibly the worst conjugation I've ever seen. It translates as - well, it doesn't - but the closest thing it comes to is "I don't embank him"

You wanted "je ne sais quoi" - literally "I don't know what".
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind for the next time I actually give a crap. :D

You knew what I meant! I don't speak French (obviously) so it was just a total guess as to the spelling. Seriously, thanks as now I know how to spell it. :)

Sam, of C2k2 and C2k4 editing fame, has made a demo expander file that allows you to have 10, 20, 40, 50 etc over matches.
Link is here and you'll need the non-commentary version of the demo.
I read on the Codemasters site that the patch isn't officially supported by Codemasters and break th EULA (therefore the law) but then he also said that any add-on patch like the millions available for the EA cricket games are the same.
 

barmyarmy

U19 Captain
Top_Cat said:
I read on the Codemasters site that the patch isn't officially supported by Codemasters and break th EULA (therefore the law) but then he also said that any add-on patch like the millions available for the EA cricket games are the same.
That's correct and is, as you say, true for patches on any game. The official position of Codemasters has to be against any such modifications even if they 'improve' the game. It's certainly not in the same league as piracy as far as illegal activity goes.

Here's what RG had to say about it:

rubbergenius said:
It's a sticky situation and one I asked for clarification for yesterday (coincidentally).

The software you install is free, but isn't open source - so 'thewiseguy', you're wrong to mock, as we still own all rights on the software and it is not modable.

Now we all know that for computer games, they are going to get modded - hell, our Operation Flashpoint is still going strong six years after release because of mods - but by the letter of the law, mods and unofficial patches are illegal. I'll guess (without clarification I don't know for sure) that games companies let most mods go as in a way they are helping create extras and sell more games - saving them a job in the process!

But to answer the original point, yes, even though it's a free demo, you've click on the EULA (End Users License Agreement) so any mods or unofficial patches you use on the game after that point are illegal. If it didn't come from Codemasters, it's illegal.

However, whether we can allow talk about them in detail (and/or promote them) on this forum is up to the legal department - and I'll be hearing back from them soon. If in doubt, talk on Planet Cricket or Cricketweb instead on these things - it's away from our website so I have no jurisdiction
 
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Top_Cat

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[b[That's correct and is, as you say, true for patches on any game. The official position of Codemasters has to be against any such modifications even if they 'improve' the game. It's certainly not in the same league as piracy as far as illegal activity goes.[/b]
Well I'm no expert on the matter but I certainly had read the post you quoted.

One thing I do know; the patch works. :rockon:
 

jordyh

Cricket Spectator
Thanks. I'm really struggling on deciding which game to get so I think i'm just gonna have to go for both
 

Neil Pickup

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For reference, my review of BLIC, from t'other thread:

Cricket has never been an over-represented category on games developers' to-do lists - but as cricket has returned to summer 2005's sphere of cool, Empire, Codemasters and EA compete for a portion of the world's disposable income as they look to revitalise the genre - or polish a rusty old machine and pass it off as new.

Cricket 2005 has disappointed, seemingly little more than a tarted-up re-working of the 2004 version - complete with a reduction in the number of shots playable and the removal of the mid-game-save function if you're an Xbox owner, and the sudden announcement of a fresh incarnation of the International Cricket Captain with a month's notice fills me with little expectation of much beyond a glorified data update - but I still hope.

Brian Lara International Cricket (or Ricky Ponting I.C. if you're an antipodean) is more than window dressing. Cricket gaming has been about batting since time immemorial, for bowling - without flexibility, without disguise and without any ability to move the ball at any pace above Paul Collingwood's - proved little beyond a search for the position where the ball should be bowled in order to get the computer out every time. That, or playing your mates and pointing ridicule as they play your slower balls several weeks before they shudder into middle stump.

Brian Lara seems, at long last, to have changed all of this. Now, there is scope. Scope to swing and seam the ball at all paces, scope to move the ball in and out late on and scope to bowl where you want, how you want and where you want. Pack the slip cordon on a favourable track, bowl back of a length, seam the ball away, add a bit of late swing and you're in business... unless you slide onto middle and leg stump, in which case you're punished through midwicket or behind square. Want to recreate the riveting middle overs of an ODI with the spinners on and the field back? Five an over is yours. Feeling confident, and want to spear one in at the batsman's feet? Hit the special delivery button, and you have one toecrusher to order. It's cricket the way it's really played.

You can't blame the computer when you spill catches, or throw the ball seventh bounce in from the boundary like an 83-year-old pensioner any longer, either. The timing meters that govern each instance require precision and concentration - and suddenly there's much more tension in your front room when the number eleven sends it skywards with three needed to win. So that's two out of two... what about willow wielding?

Firstly, much has been made of the lack of EA's front- and back-foot options in Codemasters' offering, simply opting for four stroke buttons in leave, block/defend, attack and slog. Now people have claimed that this is a major omission - but why? It doesn't take a genius to decide to crash the half volley outside off stump through the covers off the front foot - and it's not rocket science to deduce that the leg stump long hop goes to the midwicket fence off the back foot. There's perhaps one delivery in twenty that catches you in two minds - and personally, I'm amenable to the tradeoff that misses the close-quarters decision making but avoids the inevitable expletive-laden exclamation confounding the fact that you were bowled hooking a leg stump half volley.

Batting, in reality, is instinctive. You pick the ball, you pick the shot, you play the shot, then you accept the applause/cower before the contempt (delete as applicable) of the watching galleries. B.L.I.C. is much the same - there is no need to convert your instinctive impulses into button selection. It flows from brain, to hand, to bat and then, if your timing's spot on, to boundary. Lara '05, unlike many of its predecessors and competitors, ifs heavily timing dependent - making it easy to pick up (even for your non-cricketing housemates) but tricky to master; and - remarkably - a game where form takes its effect. Put it down for a handful of days, pick it up again and find yourself six down as your smears go vertical rather than horizontal - or be rewarded as you settle yourself in and build an innings.

Yes, perhaps it's a touch too simple to pick up a medium pacer with a flick off your pads over the square leg ropes, maybe the AI's intensity chasing down a target leaves a little to be desired - and it's possibly a little too eager to tone down the bowling speeds if you're not bang on the no-ball line, but which computer program has ever been perfect? (Keeping Project Magpie comments to a minimum would be appreciated here...)

The bottom line - I've bought a PlayStation 2 solely so I can play this game (my graphics card has 3D issues). There's got to be something in that.
 

cbuts

International Debutant
Langeveldt said:
Far more interested in EA sports Cricket 2005.. Looks visually better, offers more in the form of control (half the skill is deciding whether to go forward or back!?).. I hope all those who agressively attack it because of EA's previous offerings having not actually played the game end up with egg all over their faces..
i owned the game for les than 24 hours. took it back to the shop. terrible, terrible game
 

Run like Inzy

U19 12th Man
Cricket 2005 really sucks! The batting is insanely hard on PS2 i still can't figure it out! I had it for a week. The bowling is good. Brian Lara better be good cause as usual EA have disappointed.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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You want it to be fairly realistic though, and all reports suggest that Cricket 2005 is closer to an exercise in frustration than a batting simulation.
 

Behlol

U19 Vice-Captain
i have heard from people around .it looks as if EA Sports have failed again!a person even scored 400+ in a one day game!
 

Behlol

U19 Vice-Captain
Run like Inzy said:
Cricket 2005 really sucks! The batting is insanely hard on PS2 i still can't figure it out! I had it for a week. The bowling is good. Brian Lara better be good cause as usual EA have disappointed.
i think wen a game is hard to play there is fun.
 

barmyarmy

U19 Captain
Behlol said:
i have heard from people around .it looks as if EA Sports have failed again!a person even scored 400+ in a one day game!
And you felt the need to post this 4 times why?
 

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