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Congratulations Chris Cairns

nibbs

International Captain
marc71178 said:
With the greatest of respect, he did have it slightly easier to break into the side than Watson does! ;)
If Watson is good enough, why isn't he already playing?
 

Craig

World Traveller
Because there isnt a spot for him.

At this stage Watson's batting would influence his selection.
 

Linda

International Vice-Captain
nibblet said:
If Watson is good enough, why isn't he already playing?
Firstly, he was in the OD team, until he was out with a back injury.
Secondly, have you seen the players in the team at the moment. I think its fair to say theyre all quite good:rolleyes:
 

anzac

International Debutant
marc71178 said:
With the greatest of respect, he did have it slightly easier to break into the side than Watson does! ;)
that may be somewhat true, however it is also slightly irrelevant...........

in so much as IF Watson was class enough to be a genuine contender to join this elite club then he would have to be making a presence already in the Test arena - regardless of what he may have done in the ODI squad................

as I said he is looking at the best part of 10 seasons of Test cricket to be able to get there - the fact that only the best Aussie seamers last anywhere near that length of time, that he isn't a current Test squad member, and he is already having back problems - all suggest that his chances of getting there are perhaps less than Oram's or Flintoff, let alone Pollock..........

:)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
anzac said:
that may be somewhat true, however it is also slightly irrelevant...........
I'd disagree there.

No matter how good a prospect you are, until there's a space in the side, you have no chance.
 

Craig

World Traveller
I would say Love, Hodge, North, M.Clarke and Watson are all vying for one spot. Love would be ideal at 3 or 4.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
mavric41 said:
If he was a pakistan player he would have played for six years by now and captained the team at least once.:P
If he were a Pakistani player he would still only be 18.

(walks away crying with laughter)
 

anzac

International Debutant
marc71178 said:
I'd disagree there.

No matter how good a prospect you are, until there's a space in the side, you have no chance.
which only proves my point that Watson is a prospective international allrounder for Australia, and in no way already a contender to join this club.............

I'd disagree regarding the need for there to be a space in the side - granted it's what most teams tend to follow, but if a player is an outstanding talent & genuine class act then IMO you make a space for them - Watson hasn't done enough to force himself into the Test squads prior to his injury.

8D
 

Raj123

U19 Debutant
With the greatest of respect, he did have it slightly easier to break into the side than Watson does!
with some of best all rounders in the world at present like harvey and hogg in the one day team and all rounder greats like symonds and katich in the test squad i can see why it would be hard for watson to get into the aussie squad :rolleyes:
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Raj123 said:
with some of best all rounders in the world at present like harvey and hogg in the one day team and all rounder greats like symonds and katich in the test squad i can see why it would be hard for watson to get into the aussie squad :rolleyes:

your an idiot....



back on Cairns do people remember his Debut in the test arena - i was interested so i had a look :)

David Boon would remember the match well as he scored 200 in the first dig for Australia - Cairns 0/60 from 12 overs. He was tan one of 4 Merv Victims, out for 1. following on he was LBW to big Merv for 28. the match was drawn.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sports/sp...section=cricket&thesecondsubsection=blackcaps

It's cruel that such an exciting time for NZ cricket might be tainted by the sadness of Cairns' last test, but I've decided it's not really fair to call anyone's retirement a mistake. Obviously if he's had enough or he's got things in life he'd rather focus on, the fans or even his teammates don't really have a right to be disappointed by it.

I actually wondered why Stephen Fleming almost sounded rueful when describing Cairns' 158, saying he thinks there could be so much left in him. I guess now I probably know why.

I don't really get this idea of only playing ODIs to extend his career though. Unless he makes a commitment to the next WC (he'll be about 37), the ODI side should probably start getting used to life without him right now.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
Why doubt it?

Whenever someone says 'no comment until...', it usually means it's right on the mark. NZ would have to lose this test for him to change his mind IMO.
 

Mingster

State Regular
Kent said:
Why doubt it?

Whenever someone says 'no comment until...', it usually means it's right on the mark. NZ would have to lose this test for him to change his mind IMO.
Because of all this time it has taken for Cairns to find form, and he finally finds it and retires. A bit odd?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Mingster said:
Because of all this time it has taken for Cairns to find form, and he finally finds it and retires. A bit odd?
Maybe he wanted to prove to himself that he was able of playing Tests?

Or it could be he's been watching the bowling over in the Caribbean...
 

Kent

State 12th Man
Mingster - I can't fault your logic, especially with the English series so close. But you know how a lot of sportsmen are with this "going out on top" thing. They don't all have the lack of vanity or desire to serve that Steve Waugh had, and that's not really a criticism. Each to their own.

This story makes me think he may not go even if his arm is twisted - http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2856925a1823,00.html
 

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