subshakerz
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If Bumrah retired today would you rate him ahead of Holding?
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Bumrah vs Holding
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DrWolverine
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Same tier(even now)
Holding slightly ahead of Bumrah
Holding slightly ahead of Bumrah
OverratedSanity
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Bumrah needs to take 44 wickets @43.65 to match Holdings career stats.
Coronis
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Low probability
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
Holding would win with longevity
subshakerz
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I think Bumrah is amazing and if he has a full career a confirmed top 5 pacer but I also think he has a bit of a stat boost in the sense that this is the easiest time I have seen for pace bowlers to get wickets.
subshakerz
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Several awesome ATG series away, more destructive on his day.
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Thala_0710
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This is quite close as well already I feel. Although I would go Holding as well for now based on longevity, both have about 3-4 ATG away series. The more destructive on his day part I'm not sure about.
subshakerz
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Yes it is definitely close hence why I did this thread lol
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Obviously I agree his stats shouldn't be taken at face value. But I posted those numbers to show that longevity honestly shouldn't matter in this comparison. Bumrah literally needs to turn into a terrible bowler overnight to end up with approximately holding level numbers.
If Bumrah needed another 100 wickets @27 or something to match his figures then I would agree with the longevity argument because he would still be adding value as a 27 avg bowler. But not here.
subshakerz
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Yeah it's not a longevity issue I think they are definitely comparable.
DrWolverine
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TBF Holding also doesn’t have any apparent weakness.
An argument could be made that Bumrah is the undisputed best of his era whereas Holding was one of the best in an era with many great bowlers
An argument could be made that Bumrah is the undisputed best of his era whereas Holding was one of the best in an era with many great bowlers
h_hurricane
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Bumrah needs the below number of wickets at below average to statistically match some of the ATG quicks.
Garner - 54 @ 26.96
Donald - 125 @ 26.94
Lillee - 150 @ 30.11
Imran - 157 @ 27.27
Waqar - 168 @ 28.64
Marshall - 171 @ 22.80
Keeping stats aside, I think he has surpassed Waqar already. Need to do some more work to match or surpass some of the others, though Marshall is a steep ask.
If he takes another 95 wickets @ 25 or so, he will be a confirmed top 10 all time quick for me. A better average and some more awesome performances will even get him into the debate for top 5.
Garner - 54 @ 26.96
Donald - 125 @ 26.94
Lillee - 150 @ 30.11
Imran - 157 @ 27.27
Waqar - 168 @ 28.64
Marshall - 171 @ 22.80
Keeping stats aside, I think he has surpassed Waqar already. Need to do some more work to match or surpass some of the others, though Marshall is a steep ask.
If he takes another 95 wickets @ 25 or so, he will be a confirmed top 10 all time quick for me. A better average and some more awesome performances will even get him into the debate for top 5.