Brian Lara vs Sunil Gavaskar

[Jumno]

Lara, played in some great series against an ATG Australia side, Sri Lanka.

Many 200s.

He was a bit inconsistent and never scored a hundred against Wasim, Waqur and Donald.

 

[sayon basak]

I genuinely think geniuses are overrated. The output matters.

This.

Talent does not exist.

 

[DrWolverine]

This.

Talent does not exist.

How talented was Steven Smith considered as a batsman before he made his test debut?

 

[sayon basak]

How talented was Steven Smith considered as a batsman before he made his test debut?

Don't think he was even seen as someone who would bat up the order, more of a leg spinning all rounder I'd say.

 

[DrWolverine]

Don't think he was even seen as someone who would bat up the order, more of a leg spinning all rounder I'd say.

A proof that accomplishments mean more than talent.

 

[subshakerz]

This is the problem with leaving half a post out. I clearly said they were "geniuses". Sachin was brilliant, Ponting was brilliant, Smith is extraordinary but none of them are geniuses. Genius is something you know when you see it. Other bats worked day and night and became run machines, those 3 had that touch of genius. Perhaps ABDV has it - that's it.

I made a thread on it once.

Masters vs Geniuses in ATGs

Is it fair to use these two categories to describe those who are ATGs? Masters are those who are the most accomplished technicians in terms of getting the temperament and technique all sorted out, and taking the fundamentals of cricket to their highest level of skill in performance. This is not...

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[Coronis]

tbh I’d consider pretty much every ATG a genius in their own right.

“an exceptionally intelligent person or one with exceptional skill in a particular area of activity.”

 

[sayon basak]

tbh I’d consider pretty much every ATG a genius in their own right.

“an exceptionally intelligent person or one with exceptional skill in a particular area of activity.”

Actually, what I think is you have to be a genius to make it into international cricket at the first place, but guess that's just me.

 

[subshakerz]

tbh I’d consider pretty much every ATG a genius in their own right.

“an exceptionally intelligent person or one with exceptional skill in a particular area of activity.”

Some ATGs should can teach others to play like, others you cannot.

 

[Coronis]

Some ATGs should can teach others to play like, others you cannot.

I don’t think anyone could teach someone to play like Steve Smith.

 

[sayon basak]

I don’t think anyone could teach someone to play like Steve Smith.

Everybody can. You just have to jump around and shout "No Run" after leaving every ball.