Brian lara vs steve smith

[Johan]

Why are Hammond and Sutcliffe coloured, and Hutton and Hobbs aren’t?

I got lazy

 

[Coronis]

I got lazy

That would make sense if Hutton wasn’t so early in the list. Try again

 

[Johan]

That would make sense if Hutton wasn’t so early in the list. Try again

brother it looks the same anyway, it doesn't matter, don't be a technicality bro

 

[Coronis]

brother it looks the same anyway, it doesn't matter, don't be a technicality bro

It does not look the same or I wouldn’t have noticed. And I’m not particularly observant

 

[Johan]

It does not look the same or I wouldn’t have noticed. And I’m not particularly observant

perhaps you underestimate your own observative abilities.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Kohli's peak ended when he was 30, an age when batters don't retire, Smith is 35, will likely be 36 or 37 when he retires, not really motivated to just go "X played more so he's better" when both had full careers.

You're one of the more reasonable and rational posters on here so perhaps you're correct.

 

[sayon basak]

Yeah but isn't the batsmen's fault (at least in most cases), that he didn't get to bat longer. Feels unfair to punish him for that.

Exactly.

 

[sayon basak]

Still by a very long shot, so much that it's not really comparable. Gough, Fraser, Caddick, Cork all very Good. Even someone like Devon Malcolm is much better than anyone of current Bangladesh, infact he will easily be the Best Ever from Bangladesh .

Go suck a peacock.

 

[vidiq]

Still by a very long shot, so much that it's not really comparable. Gough, Fraser, Caddick, Cork all very Good. Even someone like Devon Malcolm is much better than anyone of current Bangladesh, infact he will easily be the Best Ever from Bangladesh .

Nahid Rana and hasan mohmud are very good bowlers.

 

[sayon basak]

Nahid Rana and hasan mohmud are very good bowlers.

Exactly. Both will easily end up being better than Devon Malcolm.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Nahid Rana and hasan mohmud are very good bowlers.

Both are fine bowlers. Them ending better than Malcolm will be a good surprise

 

[Coronis]

Nahid Rana and hasan mohmud are very good bowlers.

Yeah Nahid Rana super good bowler… so was Lakmal

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Smith is a good batsman. Possibly a *very* good batsman.

But he's just outmatched here.

 

[subshakerz]

Smith is a good batsman. Possibly a *very* good batsman.

But he's just outmatched here.

Nah that's being charitable let's call him a decent bat.

 

[ankitj]

I disagree.

50 + 50 +50= average/rpi of 50

50+42+40*= average of 66 but rpi of 44

150>132.

Usually in cricket, the team with the most runs wins. And rpi is runs actually scored.

If that happens over and over it also means second batter is more likely to score a hundred than the first. That's what is captured by the average statistic.

 

[kyear2]

That was just Compton's confusion on why he didn't attack as often as Compton knew he could as he had seen him do it many times, he chopped it up to them being fundamentally different people and fundamentally different Batsmen, other than that there was nothing.

don't think we're gonna agree on this, I'll just wait for smith's avg to fall a couple points more and come back to this.

It was more than just Compton, and it's hard to spin a mid 30's s/r, even in that era.

 

[kyear2]

Lara effectively played 14 years (1992-2006)
for Viv those 14 years would be (1974-1988)

130 matches, 11,904 runs @ 53.14, 34 hundreds in 230 innings.

116 matches, 8,853 runs @ 53.27, 27 hundreds in 177 innings. [WSC included]

similar enough, Lara was probably better tho, faced actual ATG attacks, his best serieses were levels above Viv's best and was not a downhill skier like Viv.

And now I know you must be trolling.

And while Lara and Sachin did face probably better ATG attacks, they didn't average out or perform better against them that Vivian did against the ATG and great bowlers he faced.

You're really not making any sense.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

If that happens over and over it also means second batter is more likely to score a hundred than the first. That's what is captured by the average statistic.

Really? I essentially posted Lara and Chanderpaul and Chanderpaul scored 100s at a much lower rate than Lara. Could've subbed Steve Waugh for Chanderpaul, same results. Fact remains, imo rpi is more valuable a stat that actual average, again otherwise people on here need to leave Shiv alone.

 

[kyear2]

May be Viv declined only because he didn't get similar batting friendly pitches like lara and sachin.

Viv's decline would have been way less precipitous if he got that era and combination of pitches and attacks.

As I've said, only of the top BAB contenders to not have a flat pitch era or face minnows.

He faced his share of legitimate ATG and great bowlers in two testing eras and came out better than anyone in history against that level of bowler. His quality is more than proven.

 

[kyear2]

I can see an argument for Viv and Lara but not as strong a case for Sachin.

Really, that's shocking.