Brian Lara vs Ricky Ponting (against pace bowling)

[Sliferxxxx]

Did Lara followed this pattern to maintain 50+ rpi ?
Lara scored 400 in one and failed repeatedly in other 4-5 then again one daddy hundred then repeated failure .
Like jaiswal , Whenever he scores 100 , he managed to score daddy hundreds like 160+ ,150 + so it hides his failures.

No, he followed the pattern of basic math: runs scored divided by innings= rpi. Don't like it, then come up with another formula. Tf is your problem?!!

 

[Narayana]

No, he followed the pattern of basic math: runs scored divided by innings= rpi. Don't like it, then come up with another formula. Tf is your problem?!!

Any good swing bowler lara faceD other than Wasim?

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Did Lara followed this pattern to maintain 50+ rpi ?
Lara scored 400 in one and failed repeatedly in other 4-5 then again one daddy hundred then repeated failure .
Like jaiswal , Whenever he scores 100 , he managed to score daddy hundreds like 160+ ,150 + so it hides his failures.

I'll take your bait for a minute. Literally every batsman throughout history has their share of failures and success from time to time. Lara according to you, hides his failures with mammoth scores, while others did so with not outs and cheap runs vs weak teams....

 

[Johan]

I don't think he's baiting tbh, just seems new to Cricket.

 

[pardus]

I don't think he's baiting tbh, just seems new to Cricket.

I am guessing he probably thinks that past players are overglorified and present players are underappreciated.

 

[Johan]

I am guessing he probably thinks that past players are overglorified and present players are underappreciated.

from what I've seen, he thinks some of the 90s players and the 2000s players were playing on roads but I feel like he goes too far with some of his criticisms tbh, haven't seen him talk negatively of pre-Sachin cricketers. Maybe he just finds Sachin's gen overrated or smth

 

[pardus]

from what I've seen, he thinks some of the 90s players and the 2000s players were playing on roads but I feel like he goes too far with some of his criticisms tbh, haven't seen him talk negatively of pre-Sachin cricketers. Maybe he just finds Sachin's gen overrated or smth

He's clearly critical of Lara too. So most likely he thinks that era of players are overrated.

 

[Johan]

He's clearly critical of Lara too. So most likely he thinks that era of players are overrated.

Yeah possible

 

[Coronis]

Did Lara followed this pattern to maintain 50+ rpi ?
Lara scored 400 in one and failed repeatedly in other 4-5 then again one daddy hundred then repeated failure .
Like jaiswal , Whenever he scores 100 , he managed to score daddy hundreds like 160+ ,150 + so it hides his failures.

I would not say failed.

Compared to say, Tendulkar, as he so often is, Tendulkar scored tons and fifties at a very slightly higher rate than Lara. e.g Tendulkar scored a ton once every 6.45 innings. Lara scored a ton once every 6.82 innings. Tendulkar scored 50+ once every 2.76 innings and Lara scored 50+ once every 2.83 innings.

However, when they did score a ton, Tendulkar averaged 146 runs to Lara’s 173 runs. Lara’s right at the upper end in this measurement behind Bradman, there are a few others I found in the 170s (e.g Sehwag, McCullum) and Bradman is at 186. I think from those with 10+ tons Abbas is closest at 180.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

I'm man enough to say and admit that we probably do over glorify players from the past and especially those we grew up with, I know i do. Lara's away record is very good but not great and is underwhelming and he was suspect vs express pace. He was inconsistent and sometimes I wanted to run on the field and choke the life out of him for his indispline (especially series in RSA 98).

But then he turns around and dominates peak McGrath in 1999, Murali and Vaas in 2001, Pollock and a raging Ntini in 2003 etc. And these are runs made with nothing on the scoreboard with what 3 to 4 wickets down. He looked in complete command vs Australia away in 2005 but got some fked up Bucknor like decisions and still ended up averaging nearly 60. Yes he made most of that in one innings but again, he got some pretty messed up decisions. He failed vs the English 4 prong but covered himself with that 400*. Of the current players though, rose tinted eyes or not, only Smith would I rank above Lara in particular. Kohli, Kane and Root...hell to the no. Of the 2000 brigade of Kallis, Ponting, Dravid etc...no.

 

[subshakerz]

I'm man enough to say and admit that we probably do over glorify players from the past and especially those we grew up with, I know i do. Lara's away record is very good but not great and is underwhelming and he was suspect vs express pace. He was inconsistent and sometimes I wanted to run on the field and choke the life out of him for his indispline (especially series in RSA 98).

I'm proud of you.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I would not say failed.

Compared to say, Tendulkar, as he so often is, Tendulkar scored tons and fifties at a very slightly higher rate than Lara. e.g Tendulkar scored a ton once every 6.45 innings. Lara scored a ton once every 6.82 innings. Tendulkar scored 50+ once every 2.76 innings and Lara scored 50+ once every 2.83 innings.

However, when they did score a ton, Tendulkar averaged 146 runs to Lara’s 173 runs. Lara’s right at the upper end in this measurement behind Bradman, there are a few others I found in the 170s (e.g Sehwag, McCullum) and Bradman is at 186. I think from those with 10+ tons Abbas is closest at 180.

*Meanwhile Karun Nair with him 303*

 

[Sliferxxxx]

I would not say failed.

Compared to say, Tendulkar, as he so often is, Tendulkar scored tons and fifties at a very slightly higher rate than Lara. e.g Tendulkar scored a ton once every 6.45 innings. Lara scored a ton once every 6.82 innings. Tendulkar scored 50+ once every 2.76 innings and Lara scored 50+ once every 2.83 innings.

However, when they did score a ton, Tendulkar averaged 146 runs to Lara’s 173 runs. Lara’s right at the upper end in this measurement behind Bradman, there are a few others I found in the 170s (e.g Sehwag, McCullum) and Bradman is at 186. I think from those with 10+ tons Abbas is closest at 180.

I honestly didn't realise their rate of 50s/100s was even remotely that close. Obviously, Sachin playing for much longer and doing better overseas tips things decisively in his favor.

 

[Fanboy375]

Did Lara followed this pattern to maintain 50+ rpi ?
Lara scored 400 in one and failed repeatedly in other 4-5 then again one daddy hundred then repeated failure .
Like jaiswal , Whenever he scores 100 , he managed to score daddy hundreds like 160+ ,150 + so it hides his failures.

Also except Aus he typically score big vs Eng

 

[Johan]

I'm man enough to say and admit that we probably do over glorify players from the past and especially those we grew up with, I know i do.

definitely, my opinion of Root over 2000s flat pitch brigade shouldn't be controversial

 

[Johan]

Also except Aus he typically score big vs Eng

Lara had the greatest series any batter ever had against Australia imo, even Sachin never reached the height of that series.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

definitely, my opinion of Root over 2000s flat pitch brigade shouldn't be controversial

It's not. But of COURSE, Root isn't done yet. Who knows where his career will end up.

 

[Fanboy375]

Lara had the greatest series any batter ever had against Australia imo, even Sachin never reached the height of that series.

yeah Lara favourite were Aus and Eng.3 double century vs Aus.

 

[Johan]

yeah Lara favourite were Aus and Eng.3 double century vs Aus.

Sri Lanka

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Also except Aus he typically score big vs Eng

What's so so weird is how much he struggled vs India even while playing them mostly at home. 1994 fail. 1997 very good. 2002 fail but I'll excuse 2002 because he was coming back from breaking his elbow. 2006 fail. All this while crabby Shiv was making runs vs them.