Brian Lara vs Jacques Kallis

[kyear2]

Calling a #8 batsmen a “designated spot for the team” and implying a 5th bowler isn’t is about the height of ignorance

Exactly this.

Was only a 4 match series too so no excuses tor Tendulkar. Even Kallis can make 500+.

So yes, it is possible.

iirc Lara has a few catches himself.

Very much so, and while not quite in the same league as Kallis, he was pretty damn good.

 

[kyear2]

As per the actual thread, Lara and easily. Quite easily actually.

And yeah, for those that has Kallis higher it sincerely makes me wonder if they ever watched either.

 

[subshakerz]

So yeah, in terms of causing real world harm, think having a competent no. 8 may actually be last.

In terms of having real world positive impact they may all be equal.

Yes, virtually every team has a useful tailender, most also have a decent 5th and cordon etc. though I would prefer the cordon to be considerably better than decent.

This is the crux of our disagreement. I have just seen teams more negatively impacted by a bad tail and have more upside from their extra runs.

The 5th bowler isn't going to save an attack if the first four bowlers failed. He just needs to be good enough for rest overs and frankly most teams can have one or two bowlers capable of doing that.

Stop mentioning slips please.

 

[subshakerz]

And yeah, for those that has Kallis higher it sincerely makes me wonder if they ever watched either.

Based on record, why isn't Kallis higher than Lara? Sincere question.

 

[L Trumper]

Based on record, why isn't Kallis higher than Lara? Sincere question.

Taking out Ban & Zim they both average roughly the same (52.53 vs 52.98) & Lara had about 5 more runs per innings. (51 vs 46)