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BREAKING NEWS : Hair wrote to ICC offering to resign

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
social said:
If the issue was unfair dismissal - yep
Unfair ? If you were an employer, would you keep such an employee who is confrontrational (although right on some occastions) and often puts you in difficult positions ?
 
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Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
It's inevitable that Pakistani followers will use this to smokescreen their own team's alledged misdemeanors and Hair's supporters (if he has any left) will blame the ICC.:huh:
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Here is the original news item, on BBC as long back as 22nd August.

The Bangladesh Cricket Board, meanwhile, has pledged support to Pakistan
 

Steulen

International Regular
Sanz said:
Unfair ? If you were an employer, would you keep such an employee who is confrontrational (although right on some occastions) and often puts you in difficult positions ?
Under employment law in a lot of countries, an employer would have to prove that an employee was solely to blame for even the biggest f-ups before being able to dismiss said employee for free. In this case, everyone agrees that Hair followed the cricket laws to the letter, so he would have a very strong case to argue. In a courtroom, the ICC would not stand a chance.

Except, of course, in the UK which is still a Dark Age country legally.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Hair's either on the verge of a serious nervous breakdown, has got no mates he speaks to about issues of any gravity or said mates are idiots.

He doesn't strike me as a foolish man, so this is a puzzling move to say the least. Spectacularly ill-judged move at any price.
 

viktor

State Vice-Captain
I'm guessing the ICC (Cowie) talked him into it. But then he asked for too much money and that might have given the ICC second thoughts about letting him go....
 

PY

International Coach
Hair is a tad foolish for doing this but I can understand why he's done it. He's looking after #1 and anyone here who claims they wouldn't do the same is deluding themselves. That's not to say I like it though.

One thing is for certain, it's re-affirmed my dislike for Malcolm Speed...he's so smarmy and self-righteous it makes me cringe.

Who can really like a person who looks like this?

 

SpaceMonkey

International Debutant
If Hair retired he'd lose out on 4 years or so of pay, why shouldnt he ask for compensation? Yes his wording of his email is aggressive, but we know thats the type of person Hair is.

He's not a racist, dispite what people here keep saying (which is DISGRACEFUL btw), but he isnt a people person, which probably isnt good when you are an umpire in this game nowadays.

The ICC should NEVER have released this email, it was a private email and they violated Hairs trust in doing so. You have to think its part of another agenda to do so.

Pakistan were wrong to not show up after Tea on the 4th day, and they have been rightly punished for it. The ball tampering thing is obviously another matter and it will be interesting to see how the ICC handle this. (badly if the past week is anything to go by :) ).
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
SpaceMonkey said:
If Hair retired he'd lose out on 4 years or so of pay, why shouldnt he ask for compensation? Yes his wording of his email is aggressive, but we know thats the type of person Hair is.

He's not a racist, dispite what people here keep saying (which is DISGRACEFUL btw).
Whats disgraceful is his repeated racist behavior.
 

Gotchya

State Vice-Captain
SpaceMonkey said:
If Hair retired he'd lose out on 4 years or so of pay, why shouldnt he ask for compensation? Yes his wording of his email is aggressive, but we know thats the type of person Hair is.
Couldn't he have waited until it came to his part of the resolution of the situation? Certainly if he had confidence on his Own actions and stance he would be assured of a fair hand by the ICC, until after atleast Inzamam's hearing.

I can't believe he expected the ICC to yield to his demand. Especially with such issues at hand. Smacks of a man whos not only 'aggressive' but severly self-centric.
 

Complicated

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I don't like Hair, but I also dislike the fact that being self delusional is the media induced flavour of the month. I only quickly glanced over the email correspondence but the first line seems pretty telling to me.

Here Hair says, "Just to firm up what we discussed earlier this evening." It’s pretty clear for this line that there had been communications about a redundancy pay out. It also sounds as if the ICC had looked favourably on it. This wasn't an out of the blue e-mail nor is it one you can characterise as money grabbing it’s a natural progression from negotiations to offer, to contract. Looks like one party got cold feet though.

People who view redundancy payouts are "despicable money grabbing" are entirely out of touch with the real world. Currently Hair has a contract with the ICC, if the ICC breach that contract he has the right to damages, or equitable remedies like specific performance. Hair is well within his rights to ask for money because should his offer be accepted he will lose the chose in action. The other issue is people will likely try to use this letter in future claims he makes for defamation or libel. Lawyers often try to use admissions to make out a defence of truth. I believe that’s the reasons for his express statements further down.

These agreements are pretty common. I did a summer internship at a labour firm last year and got to help draft a few. It’s a simple equation if he resigns he is giving up future wages, and is entitled to compensation. And it remains a simple equation whether or not you misuse 'racist' as a tag word for every sentence.
 

MoxPearl

State Vice-Captain
he only wanted $500,000 ???

He makes what.. $100,000+ a year anyways... and since he would still be working for another 5-10 years... **** i would be asking for more than that.

+ You can bet your **** hes talking to his lawyers right now about the release of that email ....ICC could be wishing they did pay the $500,000

silentstriker stop being so precious with the "racist" crap
 

deeps

International 12th Man
They could simply fire him for being a knob, and pay him nothing

Sounds like a plan :)
 

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