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BREAKING NEWS: Hair removed from the Elite Panel

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
With the change of circumstances and during the hearing, Hair was REQUIRED to prove the charges of tampering, otherwise what do one think Hair was doing during the hearing?? went there to inform Muddugallee that "i don't have to prove anything as i'm the ultimate authority??"
Right, but on the field of play according to the laws of the game, he wasn't expected to prove anything. There's nothing in the laws that suggested Hair needed to see someone tampering with the ball or have them caught on camera or anything. He just needed to believe that the ball had been tampered with.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
yeah but get the simple picture you cant just call make a call and not be accoutable for it. there is wrong decisions and right decisions, he made a judgement which is wrong. its like saying a clean bowled be said not out because according to the umpire's judgement it didn't hit the stumps. well its his judgement and he wont have to give explanation right...no you would loose your job... if he believes something/his judgement is wrong to majority of the people your just not a good enough umpire. thats why you dont(at least shouldn't) have umpires that deliberitly makes wrong/bad judgements in the elite panel after while
 
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IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
I think it was the first time that an umpire was required to prove the charges, and under the circumstances it doesn't look silly atall that he was required to prove it.

One good thing that came out of it is that all umpires know that they are accountable.
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
yeah but get the simple picture you cant just call make a call and not be accoutable for it. there is wrong decisions and right decisions, he made a judgement which is wrong. its like saying a clean bowled be said not out because according to the umpire's judgement it didn't hit the stumps. well its his judgement and he wont have to give explanation right...no you would loose your job...
Problem was that his judgement was influenced by his beliefs, which were always very BIASED. Thats why when ICC declared Murali's action legal, all the umpires wen't with the ruling, but the rogue Mr Hair continue to no-ball Murali. One Indian ex cricketer said that Hair was always scolding the Indian players while officiating the match, while Waseem Akram said that Hair called them "animals" while officiating a match being played by pak. Thats shows the mental state of a person.
 

Bracken

U19 Debutant
Hair has been "strung up" for the reasons I sateted before, I don't know the statistics in terms of error rate (and i suspect you are extracting that assumption from your rear) but I have always considered him a technically mediocre umpire at best - never mind his man and situational managemnt skills.

Such a suggestion is ridiculouos and a vile allegation to level at people of the integrity of Taufel, Bucknor and Bowden, not to mention respected match referees like Broad whom I suspect would leave the game in protest before acting in the way you suggest.
Nothing, bar the usual, has been extracted from my rear:

"An detailed investigation published in the Sydney Daily Telegraph revealed confidential information prepared by the ICC's umpiring bosses which showed that Hair was ranked equal-second on the ICC's elite panel – with Simon Taufel believed to be No. 1. In pure decision-making, Hair was the top-ranked umpire on the panel, making 253 of 263 correct decisions last year – a success rate of 95.5 per cent compared with 94.8 per cent for other umpires."

(From this site.)

Again, the guy who made the most correct decisions in the world was sacked for following the rules that he was contracted to follow.

I have no issue with the responsibility to decide on what constitutes a forfeit passing to the match referee- frankly, that rule change is the only good thing to come out of this mess. The fact remains, though, that Hair followed the rules as they were at the time, and has been sacked because of it.

Hair didn't helped himself by blackmailing ICC for money, he didndn't helped himself my tormenting SL players for years even though ICC had declared that Murali's action was legal, he didn't helped himself by maintaining his ugly attitude towards the third Asian country in India.

When a player break a law he's punished by ICC, but unfortunately Hair had been breaking law by no-balling Murali, even though ICC had declared Murali's action legal.Hair should have been thrown out of the game long time back, an umpire who refuses to obey the laws of game's goerning body, who blackmails the ICC president to get $$$ should find no place in the game of cricket.
This is absolute tripe.

Have you ever actually READ the laws of cricket? At the time that Murali was called for throwing, the law (24.2 if you want to look it up) said that if either umpire had any doubt as to the legitimacy of the delivery, he is obliged to call no-ball.

Note that it doesn't say that the umpire has to be sure that it's a throw- it says that he has to be sure that it isn't, otherwise he has to call the no ball. I think that Murali has a legitimate action, but I know that I wouldn't bet my house on it. Looking at his action in real time, his action does look like it MIGHT be illegitimate- that means that Hair was perfectly justified in calling no ball. It didn't matter that the ICC "cleared" him- they didn't change the rules to reflect that the ICC actually COULD clear him, therefore Hair was within his duty to make the decision.

(Before you start bleating about me being a Hair supporter and being against poor Murali, I will say that as a cricket fan I am eternally glad that Murali continued, as he is brilliant to watch and a great competitor. I have always loved watching him bowl.)

But to say that Hair was "tormenting" the Sri Lankans, or that he was breaking some law of the game, is completely asinine.
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
Its funny how Mr Hair was the ONLY Umpire in the world who was sure that Murali's action was illegitimate so much so that he described Murlai's action in his book as "diabolical"!! And this led him to where? to be thrown out from officiating Lankan matches.

For cricketers like Murali to continue cricket it was essential for charecters like Hair to be taken care of.Not one person in Lanka shed tear at the sacking of disgraceful Hair.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
why is it so hard to get? he DIDN'T get sacked for following the rules, he was sacked for making a hugely bad judgement and not useing common sense! get Bracken? or does 100 more people have to repeat the same thing for you to get it.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Lack of confidence based on his unmatched ability to generate more headlines than the match itself... on his inability to manage people and crisis situations without diving behind the letter of the law.

I compare it to a "regular" cop vs a parking inspector. One is regularly derided while the other is a respected figure (yes i know i'm being idealistic, it's a metaphor try and stay with me). The parking inspector is required to just tick the required boxes and enforce the letter of the law. No one minds greatly because well, in the greater scheme of things it's not such a big deal. A police officer on the other hand has to be able to handle people, handle unexpected, unusual situations and even dangerous situations.
Er, no. Far from. Umpires, judges, whatever you want to call it will have two approaches into making decisions. Some will follow the letter of the law and hence will be legalist in their approach and others will apply other methods into their judgement and hence have an activist approach to the matter. On the High Courts of countries around the world both these type of adjudicators are present. It has absolutely nothing to do with levels in which you can apply the law. Everyone is equal under rule/law and no one should be given unfair leeway.

What Hair did was right. Regardless of it's reaction. Just because the Pakistanis are kicking up a fuss won't make him any less right. And that is all that matters. No law-applying body should ever be swayed by these kind of sentiments. In that context, Hair is of the highest quality.

(LOL, just read my own post. If I hadn't written it I would have thought it was Richard :p)
 
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Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What so obvious to you hasn't been sooooo obvious to many people. Hair wasn't able to name a single player which he thought had actually tampered the ball, so to say that "hair obviously saw something" is bull... Hair saw the ball and assumed that it was tampered, Doctrove wanted to continue with the same ball, but Hair deferred.

I'm Glad the guy is gone, all he can do is whine and ask for compensation
Again, i'll say it, unless your Darryl hair, you don't know **** about what he saw
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
yeah, no....how was hair right? he was right in his procedure but his judgement was a bad one. he isn't quality, Simon Taufel is.
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
What Hair did was right. Regardless of it's reaction. Just because the Pakistanis are kicking up a fuss won't make him any less right. And that is all that matters. No law-applying body should ever be swayed by these kind of sentiments. In that context, Hair is of the highest quality.
Rubbish!! Hair was dead wrong, a truly disgraceful person, and just because Aussies are whining over his disgraceful yet fully deserving sack, it doesn't make Mr Hair right.

Cricket world is better off without charecters like Hair.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
aussies, hair lovers, give it up you're wrong, hairs judgement was made according to the books but was a wrong one at the same time. And guess what out of 13 votes, there were only 3 votes for hair while the others voted against him so how is he suppose to be the umpire when most doesn't think hes good enough?
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Rubbish!! Hair was dead wrong, a truly disgraceful person, and just because Aussies are whining over his disgraceful yet fully deserving sack, it doesn't make Mr Hair right.

Cricket world is better off without charecters like Hair.
Actually I'm of the opinion that cricket would be better off without characters like yourself.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
aussies, hair lovers, give it up you're wrong, hairs judgement was made according to the books but was a wrong one at the same time. And guess what out of 13 votes, there were only 3 votes for hair while the others voted against him so how is he suppose to be the umpire when most doesn't think hes good enough?
Are you pleadng with people to stop arguing against you? Beg a little harder, it might work.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
KaZoH0lic yeah i dont think so coming from someone as ignorant as yourself who refuses to understand the situation
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
pure ignorance man, why dont you ****ing dumb asses try to acknowledge the points thats being made like thousand times.
 

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