Black caps-2nd in the world?

[Craig]

When at full strength I wouldn't be so sure (how many in a row did they win?!)

Any team is beatable and on your day, you take your catches, bowl with a plan (not some negative rubbish stuff from a certain England spinner) bat positively and need some luck to go your way.

NZ had a plan when they toured that's why some of the Australian's didnt do as well. And that was an inform team coming off from belting England.

 

[Craig]

Now patriotism aside would you honestly say the standard of cricket played domestically in New Zealand is higher than the standard in any of those 5 aforementioned nations???

Well obviously not higher then Australia. But until I see domestic cricket from South Africa, England and India, I cant really say.

All I'm going on is the fact the standard is rising a lot and it's probably strongest then what it ever has been.

Until Pakistan get their act together, I wont say it is higher then New Zealand's.

 

[marc71178]

(not some negative rubbish stuff from a certain England spinner)

Negative rubbish?

I assume you're talking of Giles there.

If so, then that plan (frustrating SRT) worked to a tee.

 

[Langeveldt]

On talent, i would say....

1.India
2.Pakistan
3.South Africa
4.Australia


New Zealand and Australia are two of the most well drilled and commited sides in world cricket, maybe that goes further than talent? and it explains why they are winning games at the moment.

 

[harry674]

Yeah, but the result would have been almost the same had they sent their best squad. Infact in the previous ill fated tour, NZ's team wasn't that weak but got hammered at the hands of Pakistan.

this is off topic but i have to ask this to choora

are u ISI operative living in tamil nadu

 

[Mingster]

I think the fact a man who manages to average over 40 in the domestic comp is still considered by the men in charge to be an inferior batsman to McCullum , Vettori & Oram (Oram would be doing very well to average 30 at test level & the other two would be flattered by averages of 25) really illustrates my point brilliantly.

Mills would probably bat higher in a Test game than Vettori, but if you look at his ODI record and his OD record, it isn't as great.

Mills has only posted 1 x 100 in either form of the game while Vettori and Oram has posted a few more.

 

[Choora]

Could've been - there's no certainty - I can't have seen it being 5-0 if that were the case.

That's why i used the word ALMOST!

If not 5-0, it would have been 4-1!

 

[Choora]

this is off topic but i have to ask this to choora

are u ISI operative living in tamil nadu

Is this joke? if it was it wasn't funny no do i appeciate such comments.

 

[Craig]

Negative rubbish?

I assume you're talking of Giles there.

If so, then that plan (frustrating SRT) worked to a tee.

Trying to bore out a cricket say's something tome doesnt it? That a bowler cant get a batsman out and has to restort to that.

 

[Vroomfondel]

Heh, better bowlers than Giles have done that against SRT. Remember the old "around the legs" routine that Warne's circus troupe pulled in 99/00.

Talk about a massacre. Ouch. Poor guy couldn't even sleep.

 

[MoxPearl]

Well after the series win against SA now New Zealand jumped from 8th till 3rd in the world rankings :o

So the post starter was close hehehehe

 

[Ford_GTHO351]

On talent, i would say....

1.India
2.Pakistan
3.South Africa
4.Australia

I would have to disagree with you there. Australia is No.1 by far on talent, in Tests and ODI's. Also Australia has the strongest domestic four day and one day cricket comps in the world.

When you have exceptional or good players in your side such as:

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Gilchrist
Lee
Gillespie
Symonds
Bevan

and with others coming back like:

Warne
McGrath
Lehmann

and a gigantic list of domestic/friinge players to choose from like:

MacGill
Hussey (both of them)
Kasprowicz
Katich
Williams
Clarke
Watson
Bichel
Harvey
Love...and the list goes on and on.

So I would say that by far Australia is No.1 in talent for both tests and ODI's.

 

[Ford_GTHO351]

New Zealand have improved there is no doubt, but they are not number two in either tests or ODI's.

 

[Tim]

At the moment I reckon NZ are producing more talented players than South Africa...that's not including players like Gibbs, Kallis, Smith etc but more the newer players.

 

[thierry henry]

India #1 on talent? Give me a break. As far as bowling and fielding is concerned, India's "talent" production over the last few years has been terrible. Considering it's a country of 1 billion, damn near embarrassing.

It's worth noting that there are an absolute heap of Indian cricketers in NZ, and pretty much none of them have even made it to first class level.

 

[MoxPearl]

i dont understand what new zealand has to do to make people think they are getting up there ?

Thrash the "second ranked team" and the team everyone thought would demolish new zealand ? Nope still dont seem good enuff..

I mean seriously waht do u want them to do ?

 

[southern man]

I mean seriously waht do u want them to do ?

Im a Kiwi and to be recognised as a top team we need to be CONCISTANT.

 

[Armadillo]

good spelling of CONSISTENT! I agree New Zealand are not half as CONSISTENT as number two has to be.

 

[southern man]

Oh sorry mr Sargent of the grammar police:rolleyes:

 

[Armadillo]

8D SERGEANT 8D