Better combo : Sobers & Marshall vs Sachin & Hadlee

[DrWolverine]

Hadlee was a lone warrior

Not only was Hadlee was a lone warrior but he also had longevity. Hadlee also had the additional burden of being a lower order batsman.

Marshall became a regular in 1983 and retired in 1991.
Hadlee became a regular in 1976 and retired in 1990.

 

[kyear2]

Hadlee was a lone warrior

(And I have feeling this might make Kyear mad)

Why would it?

 

[kyear2]

Very close on primary, but Sachin and Hadlee a smidge ahead. Sachin clearly ahead, and the bowlers are very close.

Overall, Sobers obliterates Sachin. Hadlee isn't that far ahead of Marshall.

Two years ago Sobers was ranked ahead of Sachin as batsmen alone. I don't think there's much between them at all. The only advantage I give Sachin is batting mostly at 4 compared to Sobers moving down the order the more he bowled.

 

[kyear2]

Sachin clearly ahead of Sobers doesn't make sense, nobody in this tier is clearly ahead of anyone else.

Thank you.

Sobers too has been taking a hit on his batting of late. Should listen to guys like Trueman, Davidson and Lillee and how they spoke of him. He was no less a genius.

Becuse he could catch like Waugh and bowl 3 different ways doesn't take away from that.

 

[kyear2]

Sachin is clearly ahead of Sobers for me too. Again, not a big gap but a present one.

Based on?

 

[kyear2]

Not only was Hadlee was a lone warrior but he also had longevity. Hadlee also had the additional burden of being a lower order batsman.

Marshall became a regular in 1983 and retired in 1991.
Hadlee became a regular in 1976 and retired in 1990.

Yet they practically payed the same amount of matches.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Based on?

Batting position, longevity, better away record

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yet they practically payed the same amount of matches.

Cook played quite a few more than Sobers iirc

 

[Bolo.]

Two years ago Sobers was ranked ahead of Sachin as batsmen alone. I don't think there's much between them at all. The only advantage I give Sachin is batting mostly at 4 compared to Sobers moving down the order the more he bowled.

Batting position, home featherbeads with a relatively underwhelming away record, and playing a disproportionate proportion of career against B tier teams.

 

[Johan]

Batting position, home featherbeads with a relatively underwhelming away record, and playing a disproportionate proportion of career against B tier teams.

won't call Gary's away record underwhelming

 

[DrWolverine]

1. Played against 2 good teams and 3 B-Tier teams

2. The record against NZ is poor despite having a significant sample size of 12 Tests

Still Top 5 batsman for me

 

[Johan]

Sobers averages higher against England/Australia than Sachin against the top 8 sides.

 

[subshakerz]

I’ll third the Sachin clear gap to Sobers. Not big but clear. then there’s a noticeably smaller gap to Hobbs ahead of Sachin

I'm as big a Sachin fan as anyone but there is no clear gap ahead of Sobers.

 

[subshakerz]

Sobers averages higher against England/Australia than Sachin against the top 8 sides.

That's an inherently unfair comparison. Much more of error margin for Sachin.

 

[Johan]

Sachin is slowly becoming overrated on this site.

 

[Bolo.]

won't call Gary's away record underwhelming

In relation to Sachin, considering the other issues, it is relatively underwhelming.

 

[Johan]

That's an inherently unfair comparison. Much more of error margin for Sachin.

Alright.

what teams for Sachin would you put on par with Australia and England Sobers faced

 

[Coronis]

won't call Gary's away record underwhelming

keyword relatively.

 

[subshakerz]

Alright.

what teams for Sachin would you put on par with Australia and England Sobers faced

SA and Aus.

 

[Coronis]

I'm as big a Sachin fan as anyone but there is no clear gap ahead of Sobers.

Apparently quite a few people disagree