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BARNES OUT
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Best Test Batsman since 2000
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Poo TBH.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Well that puts things in better perspective. Good someone decided to put the idea of the other thread to vote.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Ponting, Dravid, Kallis. Pretty clear cut at this stage, IMO.
Hayden is probably 4th.
Hayden is probably 4th.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Agree with most of that but for the bolded part - I don't think Kallis's bowling makes such a difference that he would automatically go ahead of Ponting for that accolade, and that's without even considering Murali, Warne and McGrath, all of whom I'd rate ahead as well.
Shaggy Alfresco
State Captain
What do you do if you want to vote for three others? 
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
ponting takes first quite comfortably.
favourite to watch though is vaughan in full flow, class personified.
favourite to watch though is vaughan in full flow, class personified.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
howardj
International Coach
Mate, I think when you're only the second person in the history of cricket to score 5000 test runs and take 200 test wickets, you have a very strong case. Sobers is pretty good company to be in.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
No question about his numbers - over 8000 Test runs at 56 plus 200+ wickets at 31 places him, statistically, as one of the 3 or 4 greatest cricketers in the history of the game. I'm just of the opinion that - exceptional as he undoubtedly is - he's not quite as good as his raw numbers suggest.
One of the outstanding cricketers of his generation, for sure, but not at the very top in my books.
But that's just me.
anoop4real
U19 12th Man
Hayden is a great player wow!!!
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
It depends greatly on what numbers you look at. Kallis' is a remarkably complex career and there's any number of different breakdowns you can use to get a better picture than his overall career averages, which rarely tell you much about any player.No question about his numbers - over 8000 Test runs at 56 plus 200+ wickets at 31 places him, statistically, as one of the 3 or 4 greatest cricketers in the history of the game. I'm just of the opinion that - exceptional as he undoubtedly is - he's not quite as good as his raw numbers suggest.
One of the outstanding cricketers of his generation, for sure, but not at the very top in my books.
But that's just me.
I'm not about to compare him as a batsman to Sobers or Tendulkar - heck, even Richards
- but he's done the job of bashing rubbish bowling as well as anyone the last 6 years; had shown before that that he was well capable of scoring, if not to anywhere near the same extent, against more powerful attacks (even if he never had to face his own); and has bowled well plenty of times in his career, if less in the last 3 years than he had previously.Kallis is - has been of times at the very least - indisputably one of the greatest all-rounders in history.