sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
What about Trumper>Don?
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Best South African opener?
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capt_Luffy
International Coach
See, it's one of the times me having a little liking towards Trumper isn't enough to justify defending it.
Will say though, they might be cooking!!? Who knows? None of us saw Trumper bat.
DrWolverine
International Regular
We don’t even know if Victor was better than his team mate Clem Hill who ended up with similar numbers.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Ftfy.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Shut up!!! Trumper WAG
Thala_0710
State Captain
So was Kambli. I know a couple of domestic cricketers from their time in Mumbai. They said that the majority opinion at their time was that Kambli was the greater talent and would have the more successful career
capt_Luffy
International Coach
My father always gave me those two as examples on how having talent isn't enough without consistent work ethic and keeping your feets on the ground. The latest news that surfaced of Kambli a few weeks ago was really sad.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Talent doesn't exist. People just made it up to overrate certain personalities.
Thala_0710
State Captain
Exactly. Hence why consistent performances at the top level for a good time, i.e sample size is important for me at the top level. Can't rate Barry ahead of ATGs even if he was thought to be better than Don.
However with Graeme Smith and Bruce Mitchell, I see the point
DrWolverine
International Regular
Talent means nothing if you do cannot produce results
DrWolverine
International Regular
Even now there are people who feel Kambli was more talented and some feel he was unfairly targeted.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Exactly this. I think his output in WSC, somewhat County and especially Curie Cup is just enough for me to rate him over Mitchell and Smith, who both have plenty of flaws. But don't see a case over Kallis or Ponting, let alone Gavaskar.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Thala_0710
State Captain
People might be saying these things in the future about Prithvi Shaw as well. Even now they compare him with Kambli.
DrWolverine
International Regular
It’s a bloody joke to consider to him over Ponting, Kallis, Sanga etc.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
@capt_Luffy say something.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Kambli destroyed his career due to indiscipline.
Same with Prithvi.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Hurricane posted on a thread recently:
First Vinod Kambli: 9 tests 880 runs @ 97.77
Second Vinod Kambli: 8 tests 204 runs @ 18.54
I thought he should had gotten more chances given 54 Test average. I think so no longer. Dude had a Bradmanesque start but very soon turned into Harbhajan Singh. Really sad, had potential to be a Great asset.
DrWolverine
International Regular
How was Steven Smith rated before making his debut?
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Hill was Great and was considered an equal in true wickets. Trumper had his best work in English tour matches though. Back then they were almost as important as Tests.