Best players in certain age ranges

[Coronis]

tbf, Anderson is a swing/seamer so it makes sense his WPM is a little lower, that doesn't take away from the fact he was difficult to hit and thus built preassure and the biggest plus of such bowlers being the ability to take out the top order batsmen, what's the wicket distribution of Anderson vs Cunmins by batting order?

Why are you bringing up Cummins?

 

[Johan]

Why are you bringing up Cummins?

PC brought him up on the first page

Best players in certain age ranges

(I’ll exclude Bradman) Teenager Tendulkar 1522 @ 44.76 5 tons Waqar 55 @ 19.49 5 5’fers Adams 31 @ 25.06 1 5’fer Harvey, Miandad and Pollock were all options, but combined they played 10 less matches than Tendulkar so I gave them credit for that. Preferred Adams’ record to the output of...

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[Starfighter]

tbf, Anderson is a swing/seamer so it makes sense his WPM is a little lower

No, there's no reason why this should be case.

 

[GIMH]

Using WPM as a standalone stat seems a little bit silly to me. Seems to be cropping up in a few debates round here of late.

The value of Anderson’s low average was not of course just about the wickets he took himself. But anyone who actually watched any games we won in Asia where he bowled would know that, for example. & English ‘Test spam’ is as much of a point in an ageing fast bowler’s favour as it is against him. The fact he missed 1 in 3 Tests still saw him play Test Cricket more often than many of his contemporaries, and more often than those who came before him and played at his age.

I dunno, Coronis doesn’t rate Anderson as much as many which is fair enough but even in spite of that I was surprised to not see him in the list. But I get the points being made.

 

[reyrey]

Using WPM as a standalone stat seems a little bit silly to me. Seems to be cropping up in a few debates round here of late.

The value of Anderson’s low average was not of course just about the wickets he took himself. But anyone who actually watched any games we won in Asia where he bowled would know that, for example. & English ‘Test spam’ is as much of a point in an ageing fast bowler’s favour as it is against him. The fact he missed 1 in 3 Tests still saw him play Test Cricket more often than many of his contemporaries, and more often than those who came before him and played at his age.

I dunno, Coronis doesn’t rate Anderson as much as many which is fair enough but even in spite of that I was surprised to not see him in the list. But I get the points being made.

Yes, I agree. Also for most of that 35-39 range Anderson played as part of a 5 bowling attack so wickets would be shared out more anyway.

 

[honestbharani]

It would be so much easier to rate cricketers' records if every good ball got a wicket, every bad ball was smacked for boundaries, every good shot earned runs and every bad shot led to a dismissal.

Given that we all know cricket does not work like that, and that the value of a run/wicket is not the same even within the same bloody game - these rankings and ratings will always be somewhat contextual. Of course we all come in with our biases and mostly tilted towards the teams we like or against the teams we dont like. But what a forum like this should ideally do is to help us at least build some intellectual honesty and consistency in those viewpoints.