Best CWC side that could not win the World Cup

[sledger]

England 2023 imo.

 

[OverratedSanity]

India beat Windies twice at the 83 cup didn't they? Dilutes it slightly though I do appreciate it was still a huge shock

Yeah they beat WI in the group stage too.

India's army of harmless looking dibbly dobblers loved the conditions.

 

[Sunil1z]

Yeah they beat WI in the group stage too.

India's army of harmless looking dibbly dobblers loved the conditions.

They also won 85 World Series in Aus . So clearly more accomplished than the current lot .

Also won Test series in Eng in 86 .

 

[silentstriker]

In terms of just pure odds, probably easy to figure out.

I would think WI 83 but many of those players had won the WC before. But I think India 2023 are close because 1) their dominance in the tournament and 2) it was at home.

 

[Sunil1z]

In terms of just pure odds, probably easy to figure out.

I would think WI 83 but many of those players had won the WC before. But I think India 2023 are close because 1) their dominance in the tournament and 2) it was at home.

99 SA and Pak 99 are also very close.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah, totally agree with that. But coming in with 10 off the bounce and barely being tested, would've been like if Aus had lost in 2007.

True to an extent but that side had won two already. This Indian outfit is now consigned to 99 SA and Pakistan areas - a footnote.

 

[nightprowler10]

Pak 99 and NZL 92 should be in the poll.

 

[GIMH]

New Zealand 92 a good shout for sure. That might actually be the answer.

 

[subshakerz]

India 2023 easily.

 

[Burgey]

India 2023 easily.

You really think a side which hasn’t won anything of note in the short formats is a better team than the 1983 West Indies outfit? That team is the Brazil 82 of cricket.

 

[Aidan11]

The mighty West Indies in 1983.

It was almost a given that they just had to turn up and win.

 

[honestbharani]

Windies 83, India 23, RSA 99.

 

[Owzat]

New Zealand 92 a good shout for sure. That might actually be the answer.

England 1987 and 1992 also contenders, was a terrific side in 1992 but undone in the final by some great bowlers - maybe lucky to get past South Africa but that isn't the question.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Why is SA 2015 on there but not NZ 2015, the team that actually made the final undefeated . . . and beat SA

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Was NZ 2019 really a special team in the grand scheme of things? It's WI 83 clearly but I'm not sure NZ is up there with the rest.

NZ 2015 was better than NZ 2019.

Also our 1992 side wasn't that great statswise but revolutionised the game. If Crowe hadn't been injured or Inzy played an insane innings we probably would've won that tournament.

 

[TheJediBrah]

NZ 2015 was better than NZ 2019.

Also our 1992 side wasn't that great statswise but revolutionised the game.

I thought Sri Lanka 1996 "revolutionised the game"

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I thought Sri Lanka 1996 "revolutionised the game"

Mark Greatbatch hitting in the 1st 15 overs, opening with a spinner (Dipak Patel) etc.

 

[TheJediBrah]

The opening with a spinner was a bit of a delayed reaction from that

It was a funky deal at the time "hey look what NZ did spinner opening the bowling wow"

But then didn't become a thing other countries did until 20 years later. Way ahead of their time

 

[TheJediBrah]

NZ also invented the "slow bouncers with a packed leg-side boundary to bore set batsmen out" in Test cricket. Before Wagner there was Craig McMillan in the 2001 series that we must never speak about

 

[silentstriker]

You really think a side which hasn’t won anything of note in the short formats is a better team than the 1983 West Indies outfit? That team is the Brazil 82 of cricket.

Batting lineup:
Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes
Viv Richards
Clive Lloyd
Larry Gomes

The bowling lineup:
Joel Garner
Malcolm Marshall
Andy Roberts
Michael Holding

That’s a ludicrous team - that team would beat most countries all time XI. And easily too.