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Best current international captain

C_C

International Captain
hmm without having known that information i still thought u came accross as a rascist towards caucasions. that information only reinforces that view
Or maybe your view is a bit too pro-caucasian so my neutral standpoint comes across as anti-caucasian.....

Whats ironic is that most of my friends are caucasian, my girlfriend is caucasian and so is my godfather.

Again, like i asked- care to point out whats 'racist' about pointing out a fact ?
 

C_C

International Captain
Self appointed neutrality I presume.
So says the self-appointed intelligent bloke
8-)
Like i said to you when you decieded to quote me - point out what is racist about stating a fact. You ran away then and i suspect you are gonna run away again.
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
King_Ponting said:
hmm without having known that information i still thought u came accross as a rascist towards caucasions. that information only reinforces that view and hence now i see why u see ganguly as a better captain than ponting..............
Although I don't necessarily agree with the manner in which C_C conveys his viewpoints, he certainly hasn't said anything racist or discriminatory. Make proper arguments as to why you believe Ponting is better, instead of hiding behind accusations like that.
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
Ponting has faith in his players and that is repayed in good performances. Ponting leads from the front in both his batting and feilding as well as his strategical thinking. Ganguly is a medioke bowler and one of the worst feilders i've ever seen. Pontings batting average is higher since undertaken the role of captain. Ponting uses quick thinking and does not use delay tatics (or has never been penalised for it) in order to counteract a team which currently has the momentum over his, rather he uses inovation and clever thinking to reverse the situation. Ganguly on the other hand uses delay tatics in order to give himself more time to think of what to do in order to halt the momentum of the other team. Do u want any more reasons?
 

C_C

International Captain
Ponting has faith in his players and that is repayed in good performances. Ponting leads from the front in both his batting and feilding as well as his strategical thinking. Ganguly is a medioke bowler and one of the worst feilders i've ever seen. Pontings batting average is higher since undertaken the role of captain.
Again, by that definition, Brian Lara was a better captain than Mark Taylor.
He lead fro the front both with his batting and fielding ( his batting far outstrips taylor) and averaged much higher than his career average while captaining the side.

8-)

Ponting uses quick thinking and does not use delay tatics (or has never been penalised for it) in order to counteract a team which currently has the momentum over his, rather he uses inovation and clever thinking to reverse the situation.
The bolded part says it all really.
Though Ganguly does overdo the delay tactic.
Oh and delay tactic has nothing to do with thinking quicker or being cleverer. It has everything to do with breaking a player's momentum.
You see that in tennis quiete a lot actually.
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
So says the self-appointed intelligent bloke
8-)
Like i said to you when you decieded to quote me - point out what is racist about stating a fact. You ran away then and i suspect you are gonna run away again.
Maybe your view is a bit too anti-caucasian so my neutral standpoint comes across as pro-caucasian.....

:D :D
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
see thats not the point tennis has nothing to do that. u see delay tatics in chess as well as players take hours to make their mind up about a move. but we're not talking about chess now are we..... exactly.

see now there we go again with this bullsh*t marginalisation that u believe the indians are subjected to. Utter crap. Ganguly oviously oversteps the mark with his delaying tatics and ponting doesnt and thats why ganguly has been suspended and ponting not even fined.
 

C_C

International Captain
Maybe your view is a bit too anti-caucasian so my neutral standpoint comes across as pro-caucasian....
I would like you to show me a few instances where you slammed down on caucasians for overly-bigging up their race and people.
I would like you to show me a few instances where you slammed down on aussies who were too one-eyed.
Oh wait nevermind...you fit the last one to a T.
 

C_C

International Captain
see thats not the point tennis has nothing to do that. u see delay tatics in chess as well as players take hours to make their mind up about a move. but we're not talking about chess now are we..... exactly.
Surely you are not comparing chess thinking to cricket......one has millions of permutations and combinations, is completely in your control and the other has a few dozen permutations at most and isnt in your hand.
But like i said, delay tactics in cricket are much like in tennis - to mess up the rythm of the player.
That is why you see the opposition captain often asking for drinks a few minutes too early or too late.


see now there we go again with this bullsh*t marginalisation that u believe the indians are subjected to. Utter crap.
Mate, i can give you several examples where Ponting went over the limit and walked away scot free whereas for the same amount of time violation, ganguly took a hit.

Your fundamental error is assuming that the justice system is perfect.
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
I would like you to show me a few instances where you slammed down on caucasians for overly-bigging up their race and people.
I would like you to show me a few instances where you slammed down on aussies who were too one-eyed.
Oh wait nevermind...you fit the last one to a T.
The women and lower caste are free to do as they want in Australia.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
If Ponting was so good a captain then why did he fail to win the series against India at home when Mcgrath/Warne was out. I guess he is the first Aussie captain who failed to win a series against India in Australia.
 

C_C

International Captain
The women and lower caste are free to do as they want in Australia.
Is that why Australia consistently gets one of the lowest ratings by the UN and various other bodies in terms of racial and class-based equality ?
8-)

PS: get off your rocket. LEGALLY, the lower cast is free to do as they want in India as well.
Infact, in India, you have several ministers/high profile people from the lower class. I would like you to point out atleast half a dozen or so high profile aborigines person in the aussie parliament.
 

C_C

International Captain
King_Ponting said:
Sorry C_C can u please provide me with those situations then of pontings delay tatics compared to gangulys?

As i said before, gimme a few days to dig em up.
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
Sanz said:
If Ponting was so good a captain then why did he fail to win the series against India at home when Mcgrath/Warne was out. I guess he is the first Aussie captain who failed to win a series against India in Australia.
Because they were flat lifeless decks? And when u get a batting line up such as indias and australias and the two teams competing on flat decks you'd be pushing it to get a result. Hence dravids scorng over 400 runs and ponting scoring over 500 runs in the series. With two consecutive double centuries.
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
Is that why Australia consistently gets one of the lowest ratings by the UN and various other bodies in terms of racial and class-based equality ?
8-)

PS: get off your rocket. LEGALLY, the lower cast is free to do as they want in India as well.
Infact, in India, you have several ministers/high profile people from the lower class. I would like you to point out atleast half a dozen or so high profile aborigines person in the aussie parliament.
OK CC you got me. I cook and eat aborigines.

:D :D
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
Mate, i can give you several examples where Ponting went over the limit and walked away scot free whereas for the same amount of time violation, ganguly took a hit.

Your fundamental error is assuming that the justice system is perfect.

You will not find an instance of Ponting choosing to ignore the match referee at the end of game to explain why the game ran late. Ganguly refused the opportunity to explain the reasons he ran overtime which every captain gets the chance to do. He could have saved everybodys time by just doing the captains job and put up a reasonable arguement for the game running overtime. He did not reply when asked by Broad.

Your fundamental error is assuming that the justice system is racist
 

C_C

International Captain
You will not find an instance of Ponting choosing to ignore the match referee at the end of game to explain why the game ran late. Ganguly refused the opportunity to explain the reasons he ran overtime which every captain gets the chance to do. He could have saved everybodys time by just doing the captains job and put up a reasonable arguement for the game running overtime. He did not reply when asked by Broad.
Incorrect.
Ganguly, like every captain, explained the delays to the Referee. Even if he didnt in the last occasion, he definately has in all other occasions.

Your fundamental error is assuming that the justice system is racist
There is nothing erroneous about that.
History proves that the justice system is racist and has been racist.
I am sure our lawyer friend Faaip will like to explain to you a concept called 'legal precident'
 

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