BCCI Contract System

[Arjun]

BCCI Contract system finalised

I only hope these are not the only players they're stuck with. They should also have included Dinesh Karthik, Ramesh Powar, Gautam Gambhir and taken at least 30 players, as the Australians have. All options have to be kept open. Sehwag, for now, should be in class B or second-tier.

 

[marc71178]

I can understand the idea behind keeping the lists shorter.

I cannot understand Patel being in Grade C though.

 

[Arjun]

I can understand the idea behind keeping the lists shorter.

I cannot understand Patel being in Grade C though.

Then where do you want him? Higher up? With better wicketkeepers (Karthik, Samant) and batsmen (Dhoni) left out? There's absolutely no backup!

 

[marc71178]

As a first choice Test player, it seems bizarre he's below some players who aren't Test regulars.

 

[Arjun]

As a first choice Test player, it seems bizarre he's below some players who aren't Test regulars.

Not to mention there is no other wicketkeeper in the list!

 

[aussie_beater]

I can understand the idea behind keeping the lists shorter.

I cannot understand Patel being in Grade C though.

Yep, Patel should have been in group B. And group C should have been expanded a little bit to include the likes of Dinesh Mongia and a few others who are in the selection radar from time to time.

 

[marc71178]

Personally I'd have gone for just 2 tiers.

Tier 1 - ODI & Test players
Tier 2 - One form specialists.

 

[aussie_beater]

I think the reasoning behind 3 tiers was the financial part where Sachin, Dravid and the likes may not want to be clubbed with the same sort of compensation that Irfan Pathan would get and understandably so. So I would have preferred to club all the current set of test and ODI players into the first two tiers, and then placed some of the other players who are in the selection radar from time to time into a third tier.

 

[Arjun]

Couldn't they go in for 30 players, as the Australians do? An ideal system would have-

• 4 openers
• 7 middle-order batsmen
• 3 batting all-rounders
• 3 wicketkeepers
• 4 bowling all-rounders
• 7 bowlers (3 spin, 4 seam and at least one who can bowl at express pace)

Still, these contracted players should not be the only ones to stick to. The selectors should also identify enough players for backup in domestic matches.

The contracts should also include a clause statign that they play more domestic matches, whenever they get time.

 

[SJS]

Couldn't they go in for 30 players, as the Australians do? An ideal system would have-

• 4 openers
• 7 middle-order batsmen
• 3 batting all-rounders
• 3 wicketkeepers
• 4 bowling all-rounders
• 7 bowlers (3 spin, 4 seam and at least one who can bowl at express pace)

Still, these contracted players should not be the only ones to stick to. The selectors should also identify enough players for backup in domestic matches.

The contracts should also include a clause statign that they play more domestic matches, whenever they get time.

Well. They have very similar to what you want :
- 5 openers
- 6 middle order batsmen
- 2 keepers
- 4 batting all rounders
- 3 bowling allrounders
- 7 bowlers (4 seamers and 3 spinners)

One more keeper and you should be happy !!

 

[luckyeddie]

Couldn't they go in for 30 players, as the Australians do? An ideal system would have-

• 4 openers
• 7 middle-order batsmen
• 3 batting all-rounders
• 3 wicketkeepers
• 4 bowling all-rounders
• 7 bowlers

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  That's 28

 

[Arjun]

That's 28

Good. That leaves room for one more batting all-rounder and a bowler.

 

[Arjun]

Well. They have very similar to what you want :
- 5 openers
- 6 middle order batsmen
- 2 keepers
- 4 batting all rounders
- 3 bowling allrounders
- 7 bowlers (4 seamers and 3 spinners)

One more keeper and you should be happy !!

Hmmm...only Chopra is the genuine opener. You don't think the others are genuine openers, do you? How many of them can you pick to open a Test match innings? Just one.

Two keepers? There's just keep-a-bit-bat-a-bit Parthiv. Unless you also consider Rahul Dravid, who is a batsman and only a batsman and NOTHING else. Dinesh Karthik and one out of Dhoni, Samant and Ratra deserve a contract.

When I say batting all-rounder or bowling all-rounder, I mean a regular one, like Ramesh Powar or JP Yadav or Sairaj Bahutule or Sanjay Bangar, who practice their skills regularly and not in bits and pieces. If they're picked as all-rounders, they should actually play as all-rounders. None of that three-over-spell nonsense. At least 10 overs for each, and #8 being the lowest batting position. Enough chances should be given.

No point picking large packs of seamers if they're nothing more than medium-pace. The team needs an express pace bowler and the selectors should hunt through every street, alley and cricket ground in the country to find one. The Scorpio Speedster and Mid-Day Race For Pace schemes should be put to good use. Otherwise, the extra pacer should have genuine batting ability to be of any use. Else, a spinner should get that spot.

 

[marc71178]

I don;t see the point of contracting so many,

 

[Craig]

Personally I think the 3rd Tier should be for those of the u-19 team or India 'A' who may have a chance of national selection.

The rest of Group A and B I would agree with, except with Parthiv in Group B.

 

[SJS]

Hmmm...only Chopra is the genuine opener. You don't think the others are genuine openers, do you? How many of them can you pick to open a Test match innings? Just one.

You didnt get it Arjun . I counted like this from the players already offered contracts

FIVE OPENERS
1. Akash Chopra
2. Sehwag
3. Sachin
4. Saurav
5. Yuvraj

SIX MIDDLE ORDER BATS
1. Rahul
2. Laxman
3. Tendulkar
4. Ganguly
5. Kaif
6. Yuvi

TWO KEEPERS
1. PATEL
2. Dravid

FOUR BATTING ALL ROUNDERS
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Saurav Ganguly
3. Virender Sehwag
4. Rahul Dravid

THREE BOWLING ALLROUNDERS

1. Pathan
2. Agarkar
3. Yuvraj Singh

SEVEN BOWLERS
Kumble, Harbhajan, Kartik, Nehra, Balaji, Irfan, Zaheer

Hows that ??

 

[Arjun]

You didnt get it Arjun . I counted like this from the players already offered contracts

FIVE OPENERS
1. Akash Chopra
2. Sehwag
3. Sachin
4. Saurav
5. Yuvraj

SIX MIDDLE ORDER BATS
1. Rahul
2. Laxman
3. Tendulkar
4. Ganguly
5. Kaif
6. Yuvi

TWO KEEPERS
1. PATEL
2. Dravid

FOUR BATTING ALL ROUNDERS
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Saurav Ganguly
3. Virender Sehwag
4. Rahul Dravid

THREE BOWLING ALLROUNDERS

1. Pathan
2. Agarkar
3. Yuvraj Singh

SEVEN BOWLERS
Kumble, Harbhajan, Kartik, Nehra, Balaji, Irfan, Zaheer

Hows that ??

The team needs GENUINE openers- not half-baked alternatives like what they have in your list. They need someone like a Matthew Hayden, Chris Gayle, or Marcus Trescothick. These openers can open in Tests and OSI's and can get big scores. Much as Chopra is a decent limited overs opener given his average, not too many have the confidence to open with him, though he is the best choice. Not Sehwag, he's just a pinch-hitter and nothing more. Not Sachin, since he doesn't open in Tests. Not Saurav- you wouldn't want to have him opening the innings. Maybe Gautam Gambhir. They need an opener of top-6 quality, good for BOTH Tests and ODI's.

No complaints about the middle-order bats.

Dravid is not, repeat, not, repeat, NOT a wicketkeeper. He'd make a better captain than a gloveman. He can't catch, he can't make a stumping, except the three-foot step-outs and he makes a lot of run-out bloopers. No way can he even keep in ODI's, let alone Tests. You have to have your best keeper. Dinesh Karthik's keeping is better than both and his bating is of top-6 quality. Dhoni is a decent keeper (slightly better than Parthiv) but a far better batsman. Ratra is the fastest keeper, while Samant can keep to spinners well- Kumble badly needs that kind of support and he has lost confidence in the keeper since Mongia's exit.

Would you have Sachin or Sehwag or Ganguly bowling 10 overs in Tests or ODI's? No way! Sehwag? Probably, since he has to have another skill to fall back on, given his style of batting. Ganguly is too injury-prone and has a bad bowling action and has no pace, while Sachin needs the energy to bat through an innings. Yuvraj can't bowl for toffees! Don't even think of giving him an over, let alone two. And how many chances should that Agarkar get? His Test bowling average is swollen- you can't win matches with 45-a-wicket. Same for ODI finals.

Pathan and Harbhajan are better options, since they have better batting temperament (at least Pathan does more often). They need opportunities at number 7 more often. They're better batsmen than ALL the wicketkeepers tried. The all-rounders- batting or bowling- need all-round roles.

Totally messed-up contract system, this.

 

[SJS]

The team needs GENUINE openers- not half-baked alternatives like what they have in your list. ......

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Totally messed-up contract system, this.

Oh no.

My apologies Arjun. Just forget it

 

[marc71178]

They need opportunities at number 7 more often.

No, they don't.

Any side with either Pathan or Harbhajan at number 7 has a longer tail than Zimbabwe's,

 

[Arjun]

Then whom do you want at number 7?

Even then, after five years of persistence, Pathan and Harbhajan (or any under-19 bowler who can bat) can be capable number 7 bats. There's no point playing a batsman at number seven, since you don't need one. Besides, Pathan and Harbhajan are better than all those wicketkeepers tried so far.

Basically, the Number 7 must have a batsman who has another skill to fall back on.