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BCCI Contract System

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Irani Trophy and Seniors vs India have clarified what India needs to do.

Jadhav(for his century) to open.

Kaif, Sriram and Venugopal (for their centuries) to strengthen the middle order.

Bhandari and Joginder Sharma(for their 3 wickets each) with the new ball.

Dhoni(for his 4 catches) as keeper.

Kartik(for his 3 wickets) as spinner.

Bahutule(for his promise and indeference to his age and an average of 33 in the hard grind of Indian domestic cricket) as allrounder

We are going to send the Aussies back in a dizzy and send the useless lot of current Indian players to exile.

BCCI's contract...bah !!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
The Indian team has faced the pinch of lacking a genuine all-rounder for far too long and the BCCI must take the responsibility for this.
Why is it the BCCI's fault if such a player doesn't exist?
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Bhandari and Joginder Sharma(for their 3 wickets each) with the new ball.
This Joginder Sharma is an interesting prospect. His batting and bowling style are not listed, but if he can bowl a good opening spell and score 30 to 40 runs, an A-team place should not be far. He should be picked as an all-rounder and played as one, before he ends up being a specialist, like many other potential all-rounders in India.

Bhandari isn't far worse than the current pace attack. He is, in fact, one of the better seam bowlers in seaming/swinging conditions, and had a good tour with the Indian A team. He's a useful bowler even on flat pitches, and he's in good form. After this Australia series, he should get into the Indian team.

We are going to send the Aussies back in a dizzy and send the useless lot of current Indian players to exile.
Not so soon. Let the series get over first. Given how much of international cricket the Indians play, it's about time these players get enough chances, especially with that series against Bangladesh coming up.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Why is it the BCCI's fault if such a player doesn't exist?
Not just the BCCI, but also the various state boards.

These players do exist, but they never get promoted. Even if they don't exist, there has to be enough awareness created to breed enough genuine all-rounders. This should go down all the way to school cricket. The coaches at all levels, as well as some of the senior players, must try their level best. Whether they like it or not, they have to find these players if they want the Indian team to improve their performance.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
Not so soon. Let the series get over first. Given how much of international cricket the Indians play, it's about time these players get enough chances, especially with that series against Bangladesh coming up.
8-) 8-) 8-)
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What's your opinion of Dhiraj JAdhav? He's go an average of 62, with 260* as his best. The only problems are that he doesn't run much between wickets and plays too many rash shots, and that his 260* against Kenya took 3 days.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
What's your opinion of Dhiraj JAdhav? He's go an average of 62, with 260* as his best. The only problems are that he doesn't run much between wickets and plays too many rash shots, and that his 260* against Kenya took 3 days.
I have never seen him play. The only youngster I have seen play and am really impressed with is Ambathi Rayudu. HE IS GOOD.

I have also seen Dhiman. He may be better for the one day game from whatever I saw.

Sriram, when I saw him last was playing too much square of the wicket and not enough in the 'V" to impress in top company. Lots of sweeps and cuts. I dont know if he has changed.

I dont say anything about others since I dont know.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
SJS said:
I have never seen him play. The only youngster I have seen play and am really impressed with is Ambathi Rayudu. HE IS GOOD.

I have also seen Dhiman. He may be better for the one day game from whatever I saw.

Sriram, when I saw him last was playing too much square of the wicket and not enough in the 'V" to impress in top company. Lots of sweeps and cuts. I dont know if he has changed.

I dont say anything about others since I dont know.
Do you get Ten Sports? I saw the Kenya Tri-Series on that channel. I was impressed with Sriram's inteligence- he just runs the singles, twos and threes. He has good technique. Dhiraj and Rayudu are good batsmen, but shot selection (especially Rayudu's) needs to improve.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
Not just the BCCI, but also the various state boards.
Erm no, they have no say on genetics.

Arjun said:
These players do exist, but they never get promoted.
Or, the selectors realise that they're not actually going to up to it because they're not even that good at domestic level, so don't select them.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Erm no, they have no say on genetics.
What difference do genetics make? Performance and utility matter.

Or, the selectors realise that they're not actually going to up to it because they're not even that good at domestic level, so don't select them.
They can't do far worse than these specialists. There are too many specialists in this team. They're not going to lose much by giving the likes of Sanjay Bangar and Reetinder Sodhi an extended run, since they haven't won a major tournament in a very long time. To consistently win matches, the team has to have an all-rounder. Even making one out of Harbhajan or Pathan will be enough- at least they'll have one after 5 years. It's better than playing 7 batsmen but not scoring the runs that 7 batsmen should score and making a mess behind the stumps.

In the background, all the state organisations should try their best to develop all-rounders. They can spend enough money, hire the right experts, provide the right facilities, but they have to have at least 3 all-rounders. Mumbai already have 3 or 4, Railways have 3, Tamil Nadu have one (or two), Punjab have one, Delhi may have one. There may be many more, but they have to be kept in action.

Of the present lot, Dinesh Karthik is a very good wicketkeeper (beter than Parthiv and far, far, far better than Dravid) and also has a first-class average of over 40. Mahen Dhoni wasn't even as good a batsman as Pathan, but opportunities higher up the order helped him and he now has 4 List-A centuries and an average of 52. Opportunities can help, as seen with them. It's about time one of them gets a regular all-round role in the Indian team, rightaway.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Arjun, you have some very strange theories.

I've disputed them long enough, so I've really run out of things, stats and general other cricketing jargon to say.

Whatever you believe mate. Thank the lord your not an Indian Selector.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
masterblaster said:
Arjun, you have some very strange theories.

I've disputed them long enough, so I've really run out of things, stats and general other cricketing jargon to say.

Whatever you believe mate. Thank the lord your not an Indian Selector.
Wise decisipon master blaster :) :)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
What difference do genetics make? Performance and utility matter.
Genetics make a difference because quite simply if there's not an International all rounder in the place, they can't just magic one up.


Arjun said:
Even making one out of Harbhajan or Pathan will be enough- at least they'll have one after 5 years.
Why do you persist with this?

There's nothing in their performances so far to justify them batting 8 in Internationals really, let alone 7. I can't see any fan would swap 5 years of poor performances on the off chance they get an all rounder out of one of those 2 (that's of course assuming they maintain their bowling ability when not practising it anywhere near as much)
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Genetics make a difference because quite simply if there's not an International all rounder in the place, they can't just magic one up.




Why do you persist with this?

There's nothing in their performances so far to justify them batting 8 in Internationals really, let alone 7. I can't see any fan would swap 5 years of poor performances on the off chance they get an all rounder out of one of those 2 (that's of course assuming they maintain their bowling ability when not practising it anywhere near as much)
Marc. Waste of breath
 

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