**Cough**silentstriker said:You said "more then one criteria, then use reasoning beyond that". So, I am asking you for criteria. And its not about who has the better stats or going beyond stats, as AS THERE ARE NO STATS FOR CAPTAINCY!
I am waiting for an example of other criteria.
Me said:How about runs scored, centuries scored, conversion rates, batting averages, batting strike rates, wickets taken, bowling averages and bowling strike rates of that player's team? Because it makes the world of difference to which result is likely to occur.
I'm sure someone could come up with a basic formula based on their team's stats, something that gives lower scores if their players are good e.g (winning %)*(sum of bowling averages of team's bowlers)/(total number of wickets taken*sum of top six batting averages*total runs scored)
And you could screw around with the formula to get values in a range of say 0 to 100.
Not really.grecian said:Is the "captaincy win-lose percentage", Silentstrikers "First chance average"?
A minority of one belief.
Bearing in mind his record against India, I'd say the 200 is more of an achievment!Jono said:Just like Lara scoring 100 against an attack of Donald and Pollock is more of an achievement than Ponting scoring a 200 against Nehra and Zaheer.
The man has had on paper far and away the better side man for man in 12 out of those 12 series...silentstriker said:The man has won 11/12 series in which he has captained. I mean, come on. Its not him, its you.
silentstriker said:So, what if the team is quality only because the specific captain was in fact the captain? Basically, how do you separate out the good team from its captain? As for preceding and following, that would only work if the teams [except the captain] remained the same. And Fleming has been captain so long that the preeciding captain comparison is meaningless. The teams are totally different.
Effect on countries cricketing standards? What does that even mean, and how do you measure that, and more importantly, how can you tell if it was because of the captain?