Battle of the Test captains

[nightprowler10]

Hansie.

 

[Pothas]

Benaud

Would be a disgrace if Cronje actually won this round.

agreed

Benaud

 

[grecian]

agreed

Me too, whose in the next round Salim Malik versus Azzharuddin.

 

[Xuhaib]

Cronje, has a good record and always found him very solid tactically.

 

[silentstriker]

Benaud has a lower winning percentage than Cronje, so Cronje is the better captain. But he was at the forefront and guilty in the most shameful episode in the history of cricket, and it would be disgraceful for him to win anything cricket related.


Benaud

 

[BoyBrumby]

Benaud

Would be a disgrace if Cronje actually won this round.

Quite right. A travesty of a farce of a disgrace.

Benaud.

 

[Anil]

benaud

 

[benchmark00]

WTF, this is a disgrace, how can you even contemplate voting for Cronje?

Benaud easily.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Benaud has a lower winning percentage than Cronje, so Cronje is the better captain. But he was at the forefront and guilty in the most shameful episode in the history of cricket, and it would be disgraceful for him to win anything cricket related.

Surely, even if one concludes the worth of a captain entirely by ratio of wins, the significance of the matches is worth something? As has been said, Benaud never lost a series as captain, which would suggest that even though he lost tests nearly as frequently as Hansie, they obviously included more dead rubbers or series which were later turned around etc. Hansie lost every series he captained against Australia, IIRC.

Regardless, it's Benaud for me. In terms of captaincy skills they were probably quite comparable, but Benaud had the interests of the game and his team at heart, which is definitely worth something in this sort of debate.

The fact that he never lost a series despite taking over when England was the powerhouse of world cricket says a fair bit as well.

 

[silentstriker]

As has been said, Benaud never lost a series as captain,

Didn't know that. In that case, Benaud wins anyway.

 

[aussie]

close one this, i'll give it to Cronje slightly since i actually say him captain & he was very good, current South African players have great respect for the man.

 

[James_W]

Cronje

 

[Pratters]

Cronje.

 

[Fusion]

Benaud.

 

[Johnners]

Benaud

 

[Slow Love™]

I guess you have to take the match-fixing rubbish into account, but still, what Hansie accomplished with SA was amazing. He was a great leader.

Surely you would have to completely disregard it??? I can't for the life of me see how Cronje could collect a single vote unless you did. And I'm not sure I see the sense in that, personally, as in my book trashing the game like that man did is way, way worse than the inept but earnest mistakes other captains might make in general.

Maybe this could have been more of a contest if Perm had strictly said to disregard Cronje's disgraceful mockery of our great game, but seeing as it's obviously on the table, I vote Benaud in a heartbeat.

 

[steds]

Benaud

 

[Perm]

Maybe this could have been more of a contest if Perm had strictly said to disregard Cronje's disgraceful mockery of our great game, but seeing as it's obviously on the table.

I didn't feel that it was up to me to decide whether or not the match fixing should be taken into account, it should be the decision of the voter if they want to factor it in or not.

 

[Slow Love™]

I didn't feel that it was up to me to decide whether or not the match fixing should be taken into account, it should be the decision of the voter if they want to factor it in or not.

Sorry mate, that wasn't intended as a criticism of you. (Actually my comment is stupid anyway, 'cause clearly it is a contest - I should have said a "contest for me".)

 

[Perm]

Sorry mate, that wasn't intended as a criticism of you. (Actually my comment is stupid anyway, 'cause clearly it is a contest - I should have said a "contest for me".)

No critcism taken mate, good to hear people's opinions about how this battle is going. Top stuff guys.